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Howie Diddot
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Now that the figure is identified, what do we do now????
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Now that the figure is identified, what do we do now????
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Well, there is still stuff to speculate on, like;
I was just thinking, the style of the face looks like a Craig Lovik from the mid to later 80s, but it just occurred to me, by then, he was using ball and socket necks, not flat drop through necks like he did in his early figures.
And who is "O'Leary"?
Was that self-centering mechanism an early Lovik concept, or did O'Leary add that on?

But there may be more answers coming since Doug also sent a message to Clinton asking what he may know about it.
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Well...except the one I've got was bought from Clinton in the early 80's, and it has a flat drop-through. Unless it was a 70's figure that was still around at Maher.

You're right. This is kinda fun.

-Philip
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It may have been, I remembered reading this in Clinton's blog, and just went and found it;

Dated: 8-21-10
"The figure you see here is an "Archie" Knee Pal. I'd estimate his date of manufacture as the mid '70's due to the "living mouth" and "Drop-through" neck style..
Hundreds of the Knee Pal figures were made in this manner before Lovik switched to the "ball socket" design which is pretty much standard on today's figures from all figuremakers.
On the "drop-through" models, the base of the neck did just that - it dropped through the neck opening into the body. The head was supported at its proper height when the end of the headpost reached, and rested upon, the inner base of the body."
http://ventdj.blogspot.com/2010/08/drop-through-neck.html

My first Lovik figure, I bought around 81 or 82, and it had the ball and socket neck.
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That face looks amazingly close to Daniel!!
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Yep. Mine IS a knee pal...and it was originally a living mouth black woman. I have completely refurbished and resculpted the face and made her a slot-jaw white little old lady, based on a character I voiced in a series of radio comedy shows in the seventies and eighties. Drop through neck.

So it must've been made in the 70's and not sold till the early eighties.
As for Doug's figure, not for one moment would I doubt Dan. But I DO think someone's done some later work on it.

-Philip
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It would be cool if I could afford extra features. I like the figures with the wide eye feature. Wiggle ears and lowering eyebrows are also nice.

Daniel has a handshake feature, btw. I don't use it often, but it does come in handy once in while
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One of my figures has the handshake thing, I don't use it often either, mostly just give it a nudge now and then for some arm movement.
If you hear anything from Clinton, be sure to let us know.
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I'm still waiting, I'm guessing he's very busy or he took one look at my e-mail and thought "Who the heck is this guy?"
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Clinton answered me! This is what he said;

"Okay, I can tell you for certain that your figure was made by Craig Lovik, and quite likely sold originally through Maher Studios of which I was owner. "Daniel" probably passed through my hands when first sold. The exact year I do not know, but because his neck is what I call the "drop through" style I know he was built in the mid 1970s. I'm pretty certain he was sold with the catalog name of "Buford Buckworth." The name O'Leary on the headpost would have been added by his owner at some point, and may have been the name of the owner (seems I remember a vent named Donald O'Leary) or perhaps it was the name of the figure. More likely the owner, I'm guessing."

Mystery solved!!!
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I knew he'd get back to you.
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He's great that way.
Jimmy Nelson's another one. Always replies promptly and happily.
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Now I told my daughter and she asked me "Is he one of a kind or are their a bunch of Buford Buckworth's floating around out there?

I replied "Excellent question!"
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My daughter found this link and I am amazed! If that's not him, it's extremely close! He has a bit more hair than Daniel, but the name underneath is Buford Buckworth and from the tilted camera angle it still seems to be him

http://www.gigsalad.com/sounds_familiar_entertainment
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If it was a catalog model, he's probably got some "brothers" out there.
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Interesting they'd keep the name, innit?

-Philip
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Yes Clinton was surprised, too.
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Like Clinton said, probably the name of the owner, probably figured if it came up missing, it'd be an identifier, or as I mentioned in another post, some just like to put their name on all their stuff.
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Blueshawk, I think what Servante was referring to in his post was keeping the original name of Buford Buckworth. But I agree, putting your own name inside the figure is a good idea. Inside Daniels body shell, I took a black magic marker and wrote my name and address and phone number since Daniel has a tendancy to not talk for himself when I'm not around. Kind of like Mr. Ed. He only talks to me.
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