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KyleMacNeill Inner circle 2757 Posts |
Hi all,
I just wanted to share with you that I have just found two of my most recent Ebooks and my Magical Advent Ebook being offered for free on a torrent site. I am so apalled, and if anyone has the power to remove them, please PM me. I would love them to be removed ASAP, as I spent a lot of work on this material. A saddened, Kyle MacNeill |
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Prager Inner circle e-Mentalism.com 1858 Posts |
I highly recommend you to delete the link to your files.
Jose Prager
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Dan Bernier Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 13:44, J. Prager wrote: No doubt. Bringing attention to the site by linking to it doesn't help the situation. The best advice I can give is seek legal counsel for legal advice. You maybe protected by copyright laws, but only a lawyer can give proper legal advice in your situation.
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
These types of thefts have become a homeland security issue IMHO.
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 14:19, jazzy snazzy wrote: Are you sure about that? I'm not condoning theft but giving the government control over what is and isn't on the internet is a much bigger issue than theft. |
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
That's just one reason why you will never see anything of mine published in digital form. IMO anyone who publishes in digital form is offering their work to anyone with a computer.
The only thing shocking about such wanton thievery is that anyone would find it shocking. Reminds me of Casablanca.
Dick Christian
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 14:23, Dick Christian wrote: Dick is absolutely right in regards to that. Even Adobe would tell you, if you want to secure a document, don't share it/release it. Best anybody can do is to make access to the material difficult. PDFs are great for tracking a paper trail and great for verifying documents but they are not really a secure transport of information. Publishing with good old analogue paper is probably still the best. Folks need to work pretty hard to copy print (at least much harder than stealing a digital document). |
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 14:21, kissdadookie wrote: Why do we bother with copyright laws if anyone can just take whatever they want with impunity?
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
-Charles Schulz |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 14:32, jazzy snazzy wrote: Again, there's a BIG difference between monitoring and reporting on a crime. When you talk about homeland security, they monitor. The police, FBI, etc., they are notified about crimes in which they then act out on. Saying homeland security should actively monitor the internet now opens up the fact that they can also now justly tap your phones, place monitors in bathrooms, etc. How so? Because, if they are allowed to actively monitor for the sake of catching bootleggers on the internet, why can't they do that outside the realm of the internet? Here's a better way to break it down. Monitoring by homeland security would mean they get to monitor folks even when folks are NOT under suspicion, because they are basically just anticipating that EVERYBODY may possibly commit a crime regardless if they ever will or not. Reporting and acting on a crime is when the crime is committed,known about, and now the criminal and the criminal act is being pursued by the authorities. In other words, the monitoring scenario basically makes everybody a criminal while the reporting and acting on a crime only goes after the known criminals. I don't know Jazzy, maybe you're fine with the government peeping in on your every tinkle and d00 d00 in the restroom or listening in on you as you make kissy noises to your kids or what not, but I think for the majority of us that live in the USA, we rather not have that happen to us. |
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
I was referring to homeland security as a state of being, not the Homeland Security Agency.
Since a considerable amount of intellectual property theft is conducted from overseas, trade sanctions against habitual offenders would seem appropriate. Domestic theft needs to be addressed with criminal actions. As it stands now, our only recourse is through lengthy, costly civil litigation. This problem is nothing new and it affects far larger issues than magic tricks. But it is us individuals and small companies that take the hardest financial hit from these assaults. I'm just saying that the law need some teeth. Find these bums and arrest 'em. There is no MONITORING required. I would be satisfied with the investigation and followup of a criminal complaint.
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
-Charles Schulz |
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KyleMacNeill Inner circle 2757 Posts |
Anyway, I don;t want this to turn into an argument.
I just wanted to notify everyone, in case someone had a way of taking it down. Best wishes to all, Kyle |
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DougNicols Special user 846 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 14:32, jazzy snazzy wrote: For the same reason we bother with immigration laws, and then legislators hire illegal workers to clean their homes. |
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AsL Special user 680 Posts |
This reminds me of the extensive thread here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......=177&348 |
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
You can't worry about this stuff. It's like a roach, step on one, more pop up.
I've seen plenty of hard copy stuff scanned and shared with others as well. Huge magic books. These days it's just as easy to people to do and, trust me, they do it. So PDF or hard copy, it still winds up on these sites. Those who would steal probably don't do anything with the information anyway. I've heard of guys who have literally thousands of ripped off magic dvds and PDFs. Thousands... do they actually READ and watch all that stuff. Probably not. They just like collecting. I sell ebooks and sell a lot of them. There are people out there who do value material. Not everyone is a thief.
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
Seed an infected .pdf file to the torrent sites. Disclaimer: This is illegal in many countries but so is copyright infringement.
Douglas Lippert
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On 2011-01-06 15:13, jazzy snazzy wrote: Homeland security as a "state of being" in this case makes no sense at all. How does the piracy of music, movies, magic books, etc. impact the security of the nation? How does it impact our civil rights? The fact of the matter is that it does not. What you wish for is more responsive law enforcement, not homeland security as a "state of mind." As for you concern about a financial hit from piracy, guess what? The indies and niche markets are the LEAST affected. Why do you think indie bands and even some mainstream bands are on the bandwagon of practically GIVING their material away (case in point, Trent Reznor and the NIN). It's the corporations that are the most concerned because they are getting hit the hardest and let's be honest here, corporations could really care less about the art. Again, niche markets like the magic market, the majority of them are in it for the promotion of the art/craft. Their customers are the ones that respect the art/craft. Guess who's stealing the books and what not off of torrents? The very very casual market who most probably would not have purchased it in the first place if there never was a venue where they could pirate it from. Like Cameron mentioned, you really don't end up see a negative impact on sales due to piracy. I'm not saying that piracy is a good thing but just pointing out that there's very little meaningful impact from piracy. Look around at where all the commotion is coming from in regards to stricter action against piracy, you'll see that again and again it's the corporations. Look at commercial music. Commercial music is free and flowing via torrents, has this really impacted things like iTunes? No, of course not. The success of iTunes is THE proof that piracy really has very little impact at the end of the day. Who's complaining? Records companies, the same companies that wishes that they were still selling CD's to you at Tower Records for at least $16 a pop. They also hated Wal*Mart by the way if you don't remember. So in the end, please explain to me how piracy actually has any real impact on the folks being pirated as opposed if piracy did not exist at all. Also explain to me how breaking the law in ways such as piracy impacts the security of our nation resulting in the need for a "homeland security as a state of being." Heck, if you really wanted to get down to it, we should all be paying premium prices for everything because selling things for as inexpensive as possible is quite close to piracy as far as folks who are making a racket about piracy is concerned. |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
Hi Kyle,
In cases like this, the best thing to do is to contact the site owners and request that the illegal material be removed (I've done this in the past for lecturers at the University I work at). In most cases, the site owners are reasonable about such matters because they don't want to get on the wrong side of the law. Remember, there is nothing inherently illegal about P2P technology, sadly people just abuse it to share illegal content. In fact, Bitsnoop appear to have a 'take down' policy. Information about it can be found here: http://bitsnoop.com/info/dmca.html Contact them following the instructions on this page and more than likely your material will be removed from the site. Hope this helps, Marty |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
What Marty said.
You have to send a take-down notice if you want the content removed. Under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, webservers and sites that feature content uploaded by third parties become liable if they do not comply with a legitimate take-down request for a copyright violation. It's pretty sad how often you can Google an effect, book, DVD, etc., and a bunch of torrent sites come up towards the top of the listings. It would be one thing if it were material that was out of print and not likely to be re-issued, but most of the time it's just simple theft of currently marketed items. Kissdadookie - do you really think "there's very little meaningful impact from piracy"? Would you feel the same way if you worked for months on a project intended for sale, only to have it released on the web for free a week after its issuance?
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
I am not in any way condoning theft of property -- intellectual or otherwise; however, it is a simple fact of life that, like it or not, e-publishing is the equivalent of leaving your wallet full of cash and your credit cards on the dashboard of your unlocked car with the windows open parked on a busy street in Brooklyn and then being surprised when you come back the next morning and find your wallet (and possibly your car as well) long gone.
Dick Christian
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Like I said, though, hard copy books are still scanned and uploaded onto these sites. As are dvds. There is no safe medium to publish in.
And there are plenty of people who do pay for downloads (and books and dvds).
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