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mindpunisher
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Saw first half of the show that was enough. What a couple of *****.

If this is the best we can come with for TV magic shows we are in trouble.
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I am pleased that my opinion of these two is shared by so many.
(Was not the case several years ago).

Not saying they are not good at what they do.

But saying what they do is not good.

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Well they are ritually trying to make the magicians look like idiots and beg for a place on their show. Its horrible to watch. Esecially as some of the magicians are great.
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They are *****. -.-

And John Archer is amazing. And he always told the truth. John if you're reading, well done mate.
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John Archer was a joy to watch and to be honest, I was gutted that Michael Vincent didn't fool them - he's just so classy lol.

Having said that, some of the acts, I wasn't so impressed with. Still, swings and roundabouts.
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On 2011-01-07 17:29, Ryan Leston wrote:
John Archer was a joy to watch and to be honest, I was gutted that Michael Vincent didn't fool them - he's just so classy lol.

Having said that, some of the acts, I wasn't so impressed with. Still, swings and roundabouts.


The acts themselves were brilliant, all of them were good standard. But the exposure was mean. Smile
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John was brilliant but they still tried to expose his method. They weren't happy that he did. They are arrogant *****.
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Yea, to be honest, I was praying for them not to expose Archer's method and they did come pretty close.
But it was a great performance and from what we could see of the audience, he seemed to win them over in a heartbeat Smile
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Why did they need to expose anything? Coded language and clever words could have made the show...John, Michael, and Benjamin, simply great!
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You know there is a great promotional angle here.

Why not go on get in a fight with them then start
a web series exposing them?

D amn Deluxe bit of a fire that would start.

Take apart their enire act and pay for the
web sites promotion.

Guess this is something I may need to do
now that this thread made me think of it.

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Agreed level of exposure totally unnecessary
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Wasn't just the exposure it was the awful disrespect and way they treated the preformers. It was degrading.
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The second guy who did the aweful Mentalism had terrible patter. It shows the difference between Mentalism and Mental Magic.
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What did I miss... I have no idea what you guys are talking about. What show is it and . . . Is it on Youtube yet?

By the way I recently saw P&T's live show and it was disappointing. I was not impressed for the amount of cash I handed over and neither were many in the audience as I listened to conversations of others as we left the theater. Still...they make a lot of money.
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I enjoyed all of the acts, the only one I wasn't too keen on was the guy with the blank cards who force the ten of hearts, he was definitely doing Derren Brown's style. I figured it out straight away and I'm so far from Penn and Teller's level unlike some on here.

Michael Vincent was brilliant I was surprised to see him considering he is one of the best card magicians in the world, but I guess that doesn't count for much today. I'm not a big fan of card magic but he was so polished and smooth I really wanted him to fool them but unfortunately he didn't.

Benjamin Earl managed to fool them although they said not completly, but that doent matter he's still going to Las Vegas.

John Archer was a big surprise he fooled them with just Five envelopes. I didn't know much about him but from what I had heard he wasn't too special, I found myself warming to him more and more as his act progressed and he was quite funny. The main thing is he is going to be their opening act in Las Vegas. Good for him.
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You know, the more I think about the show, the more I think that, had I been in John Archer's shoes, I'd have told them where to shove their all expense paid trip.

Having very nearly exposed the method to what I feel is a bloody beautiful piece of mentalism, Penn proceeded to be very dismissive of him afterwards, obviously preferring the 'cocky' magicians as he put it.
At the very least, the hat has been tipped to the lay audience that there is a 'trick' behind this routine and it worries me that this sort of effect could now be viewed as more of a puzzle to the god knows how many who saw the show.

All in all, a very poor show from these so called professionals, but some nice routines from the UK performers at least.
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On 2011-01-07 18:57, mindguru wrote:
The main thing is he is going to be their opening act in Las Vegas. Good for him.
Not for long... once Vegas sees Archer on stage, full force, he'll have his own show awfully darn quick. Funny, entertaining, great pacing, and a great showman.
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Lets face it they as good as exposed it. They said more than enough. But what can Archer do in such a situation? I thought it was a terrible situation to put him in.
I also thought it terrible that such a class act as Michael Vincent should be working for free in a magic competition. That was outrageous. He was a TV star 20 years ago.
I didn't think the 2nd act (10 of hearts) was as bad as some say. Having said that I would have done a switch on the final placement and had Jonathan Ross pick up a deck that now had ALL the 10 of hearts. Couldn't believe he missed that opportunity.
But I think Jim Callahan is on the money. A TV special completely exposing the works of Penn and Teller. They could never argue against that now could they? What's good for the goose...
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Penn And Teller. Well that's it for me. They can go shoot themselves. And I was a fan before.
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What are you talking about, where is this video?
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