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Woland
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What about Gilles de Rais?
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He also produced documents claiming to be innocent.
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The transcripts of the trial of Gilles de Rais, which were translated from Latin & old French into modern French by Georges Bataille, are quite interesting.

To a very great extent, the prosecution of Gilles de Rais was prompted by both the maternal and paternal branches of his family, as he was squandering the very great wealth he had inherited -very close to the richest estate in France- on a series of lavish theatrical re-creations of the Battle of Orleans, during which he had distinguished himself at the side of Ste Jeanne d'Arc.

However he certainly admitted to, if memory serves, more than 200 murders. He denied, however, that he killed the children as part of exercises in sorcery, explaining to the Bishop who presided, much to the Bishop's consternation and incredulity, that he had murdered the children uniquely for his "sensual delectation," and that was sufficient motive to murder 10,000 people.

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More mob violence in Madison, Wisconsin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla......1w#at=52

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There can't be more mob violence because there hadn't been any mob violence.


And now that I've seen the video you posted let me amend that to:

There can't be more mob violence because there hasn't been any mob violence.
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Suit yourself. However, I'll bet you a chocolate milkshake that if that were a crowd of Tea Party people attacking a bus filled with the 14 Democrat Party fellbaggers, you'd judge it rather differently.

Meanwhile, a woman who made death threat......nfessed:

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MADISON – The Wisconsin Department of Justice, Division of Criminal Investigation and the Wisconsin Capitol Police have investigated numerous threats against elected officials over the last four weeks. Last evening, the DCI identified and located a subject suspected of sending at least two of those threats.

The suspect subsequently admitted to authoring and sending two e-mails threatening to kill the Governor and members of the Senate. DCI Administrator Ed Wall said “The Division of Criminal Investigation takes these kind of threats seriously and will follow through with the investigation and prosecution whenever possible.”

This investigation is still ongoing and no further information will be released pending presentation to the District Attorney in the jurisdiction of the threat origination. The Department of Justice has notified members of the Governor’s Office and Senate in regard to the recent developments in this investigation.

Here is the language from those threats:

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I want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we've had enough. We feel that you and your republican dictators have to die. This is how it's going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it's a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn't enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent. This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won't tell you all of them because that's just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it's necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We will "get rid of" (in which I mean kill) the 8 of you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. The 8 includes the 7 senators and the dictator. We feel that it's worth our lives becasue we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. Goodbye A*****E!!!!

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F--- YOU A*****E, I AM FORMALLY REQUESTING TO SEE THE 30,000 EMAILS YOU HAVE GOTTEN MAKING YOU COMPLY WITH THE OPEN RECORDS LAW. I ASSURE YOU THAT NONE OF THEM ARE IN SUPPORT OF YOU OR ANYTHING THAT YOU OR YOUR STAFF STAND FOR. YOUR STAFF MEMBERS HAVE NOW BEEN ADDED TO THE HIT LIST AS WELL AS THOSE OF THE OTHER SENATE MEMBERS WE HAVE THREATENED. PLEASE ADVISE THEM OF THE IMPENDING DANGER LEADING TO THIER DEATHS.



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So far this week we have established that an inspector at a food plant is performing an act of violence while a large group moving forward is peaceful. Ya gotta love it!
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MagicSanta, you have hit the nail on the head.

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On 2011-03-04 11:40, Woland wrote:

What about the rifle cartridges that were found outside the State House?

What about them?

"University of Wisconsin-Madison Police Chief Susan Riseling said the bullets were 22-caliber long rifle hollow points."

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpps/news/li......12152960

I suppose card carrying union liberals are allowed to possess hollow point bullets. But I must admit, it does sound odd to me. I suppose it is out of the question that someone else, not a union lib, might have planted them there? Seems convenient that these bullets were found just as Gov. Scott Walker's administration was preparing a court order to clear the State Capital building.

It's also sort of odd to me how live ammunition on the ground was considered a threat at this protest, whereas guns (possibly even loaded guns) in the hands of conservative protesters at liberal political rallies last year were being defended by many conservatives.

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What's good for the goose is good for the gander, is all.
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Oh, so now a black man in America can't have a weapon if it is legal, is that what you are saying Balducci?

Those rounds of ammo were a significant hazard. Slip and falls are the most common accident and if you step on a bullet you could have it roll under your foot and cause a serious injury. I think the rounds came from people finding out that if they entered the building their will be searches and they checked their pockets and found rounds from a hunting or targetting trip and just tossed 'em. Nothing more evil than that. Wisconsin is mostly honkies and you know how they are when it comes to hunting.
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Woland- those threats the person made, that's horrible. Violence is wrong, disturbing, and disgusting. But I'll say the same thing that both sides have said when something like this happens- there's always the lone nutcase out there.

We shouldn't encourage them, and we should report them when we spot them.
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On 2011-03-12 18:44, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Woland- those threats the person made, that's horrible. Violence is wrong, disturbing, and disgusting. But I'll say the same thing that both sides have said when something like this happens- there's always the lone nutcase out there.

We shouldn't encourage them, and we should report them when we spot them.


Yup, see something, say something.
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EsnRedShirt,

It's not just a lone nutcase. Threats against the Governor and the Republican State Senators are all over the internet.

You can review some of them here. It aint pretty.

Meanwhile, nobody has threatened the 14 Democrat Senators who fled the State with anything worse than a recall.

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Now there's a winning slogan: "Republicans--The Peaceable Folk TM"

From last year:

"Democratic lawmakers have received death threats and been the victims of vandalism because of their votes in favor of the health care bill, lawmakers and law enforcement officials said Wednesday, as the Congressional debate over the issue headed toward a bitter and divisive conclusion.

Representative Steny H. Hoyer, Democrat of Maryland and the majority leader, said at least 10 House members had raised concerns about their personal security since Sunday’s climactic vote, and Mr. Hoyer characterized the cases as serious."


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/health......tml?_r=1
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Meanwhile Gabrielle plans to attend the April 19 launch of the space shuttle Endeavour.
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Reading through all these posts is very interesting. You can tell a lot about how people think by reading through all this.

If my wife and kids are ever anywhere (when Im not around) I hope and pray that when an evil madman that is intent on killing them starts to shoot, a well trained law abiding citizen pulls a gun and saves them.

Those of you that want to ban guns and ammo, I guess you would rather nobody intervene? Because then you would have to struggle with your political issues?
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On 2011-01-12 17:30, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Santa- maybe. But remember- I did say Arizona was a concealed carry state. Anyone could have had a weapon. Of course, unless they were right next to the shooter, they wouldn't even know anything was amiss until he started firing. And at that point, he could probably have still emptied his extended clip before they could draw, remove the safety, aim, and fire. (And hope they didn't miss, firing into a crowd.)


What happened in Arizona was deplorable and should be condemned by every person in this country.

That said, EsnRedshirt, unless you have a background in firearms and defensive firearms training, you should limit the speculation on how a deadly force response works.
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So no talk about the start of his trial?
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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Speaking of gun laws and regulations:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/14......407.html

I'm surprised more don't consider things like gun licenses/permits etc to be infringing on rights. I imagine those same people would be outraged if you were required to have a license to speak freely, or practice your religion.

Though I'm sure many would be somewhat happy if they had a license for posting on the internet. Then again, think how utterly boring it would get.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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I won't forget you Robert.
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