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Russell Davidson
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THE EFFECT

You place a coin in someone's hand laying down the challenge that you can grab it before they close their hand. They close it & think you've failed because they can still feel the coin there. But when opening their hand it's a different coin & you're now holding the original one.

I saw a clip of one of the magicians on the Penn & Teller 'Fool Us' do this. I wasn't aware it was trick TBH. The only other place I've seen it is in the film Bloodsport starring Jean Claude Van Damme.

Does anyone know if this is a gaff coin or know where I can find this routine?
Sean Giles
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It's a co___r/si___r coin. Place it on their fingers and it flips over when they close their hand. Just don't leave it there too long!

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Sorry Sean, but its not a gimmicked coin. This is a very old swindle, that simply uses 2 coins and a ''sleight'' (if you could call it that). jim
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Vinny has a fantastic method for doing this with pure sleight as well.
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Hey Jim.

If that's the case I'd love to know how it's done. Can't imagine!

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I used to do this a lot with black and white stones -- it kills.

The key is that they are focused on a vanish and are "blind" to a switch
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Pete, I would appreciate a PM about this also!

Thank you.

Jim
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It can be done as Sean says or as Jim Ferguson says.
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Hi guys, didn't realise this thread had tooken off. Sean, Jim, I trust Pete has filled you in ? I first learned this from my father, who learned it from my grandfather, who was an amateur magician. If you havent seen it before its quite a shock when you open your hand and see a diffirent coin. jim
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On 2011-01-12 02:03, J-Mac wrote:
Pete, I would appreciate a PM about this also!

Thank you.

Jim


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I would love a pm on this as well. thanks
Russell Davidson
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Hello, OP here. Can someone please PM me as I still none the wiser Smile

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On 2011-01-11 11:54, seangiles wrote:
It's a co___r/si___r coin. Place it on their fingers and it flips over when they close their hand.



I do this trick regularly as part of my close up routine, I call it the 12p trick but I don't use whatever is the gaffed coin that you describe. I just put what they think is a 2p coin in their hand and when they open their hand they find a normal and examinable 10p coin. Its so simple I thought everyone with a bit of knowlege knew how to do it.
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On 2011-01-11 11:54, seangiles wrote:
It's a co___r/si___r coin. Place it on their fingers and it flips over when they close their hand.



I do this trick regularly as part of my close up routine, I call it the 12p trick but I don't use whatever is the gaffed coin that you describe. I just put what they think is a 2p coin in their hand and when they open their hand they find a normal and examinable 10p coin. Its so simple I thought everyone with a bit of knowlege knew how to do it.


The actual effect I saw doesn't play that way. And the more I think about it the more I think it's not a gaff at all but another method. It certainly doesn't flip over as Sean suggests as it starts in the centre of their palm & they simply close their hand.

Jim or Pete can you shoot me a PM as you both seem to know what I need.

Thanks to all that have posted so far.
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Think this is more specifically known as a kind of "Coin Snatching." It was in that movie where the guy snatched one coin from the hand and left another one there without the victim even realizing a switch had been made. It can certainly be facilitated as Sean described with gaffed coins but the method being asked about here is more along the lines of a stunt, that could play as a little magic as well. I believe this aspect of it is known as the "Rochester Switch," nice move. See here:

http://www.coinsnatching.com/coin_table_of_contents.html
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Hi Russell, Ive sent you a PM. jim
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If its a coin snatch then I suspect its done in exactly the same way as Top Cat performs it when he snatches the coin back from his chauffeur at the start of the Top Cat cartoon.
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If I remember correctly, and I happen to be somewhat a cartoon afficionado, Smile Top Cat has a string attached to the coin to pull it back before the hand closes. Smile This "Coin Snatching" thing uses no string, the snatch & switch happen from speed and agility. It's a real thing, I've seen it done. But this is about as close to magic as perhaps cup or dice-stacking is to cups & balls IMHO. At best it can seem somewhat magical if played that way I guess.
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Mb and VE, Top Cat was the best! I LOVED that show. I also remember the coin snatch. Perhaps I'm off topic, but couldn't help but chime in on the Top Cat reference.

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Can someone shoot me a post Please as I saw this on the show and would like to know .

Thanks

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