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Pakar Ilusi
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Just so much "baggage" coming with it from my experience... The bad outweighing the good imho...

I will use the word only to say that what I am doing is not "Hypnosis"... Smile

I will be using the Energy System ploy to induce trance...

Plays better for me. More congruent with my Character's abilities... And it ties into existing Energy Systems already out there... (I hesitate to use the word "real" as I don't think they are any more real than MY System... Smile)

Anyone else do this?

Smile
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No. But if I was based in the UK, with their silly 1952 Hypnotism Act, then that is exactly what I would be doing.
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Yes I do believe that many hypnotists use that exact phrase: 'this is not hypnosis'. I like it because it immediately sends out a moment that initiates: fascination. And fascination is one of the paths to what we loosely call Hypnosis.
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Where might one read more about said "Energy System ploy"?
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On 2011-01-17 07:19, TonyB2009 wrote:
No. But if I was based in the UK, with their silly 1952 Hypnotism Act, then that is exactly what I would be doing.


Actually although the Act is a nuisance it has a lot of commonsense safety giudlines that wouldn't be needed if there were less idiots around to screw things up for others.
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On 2011-01-17 08:59, Owen Mc Ginty wrote:
Where might one read more about said "Energy System ploy"?


No one place really... Not in Magic or Mentalism for sure... Smile

I learnt it from the Martial Arts actually. Adapted it to trance. Taking a slight "meditation" angle to it.

So you have to delve in there... Qigong and such...

Sorry, no straight answer.

But that's my experience of it.
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I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing. But hey to each his own.
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On 2011-01-17 07:19, TonyB2009 wrote:
No. But if I was based in the UK, with their silly 1952 Hypnotism Act, then that is exactly what I would be doing.


Actually although the Act is a nuisance it has a lot of commonsense safety giudlines that wouldn't be needed if there were less idiots around to screw things up for others.


It isn't needed in other countries and having here doesn't stopped lots still doing lots of things.

It's like the stupid arguement that we don't allow people to have guns to protect themselves here as criminals would get hold of them - The result being that we have nothing to defend ourselves and the criminals still get hold of them!
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So if you called it "Another Name", wouldn't it be up to the Authorities to prove otherwise and how would they do that exactly?

Authorities: "You must do XYZ as a hypnosis act."
Energy consultant: "But I'm not using hypnosis I'm employing the ancient art of gobbledygook."
Authorities: "Oh err ummm I don't think we have a form for that.... Or a law...."
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I think you might be making things unnecessarily hard for yourself.

Then again, by saying "I'm not going to hypnotise anybody..." maybe a number of people will automatically start running their "I'm about to be hypnotised" program regardless.

See also Martin Taylor:
http://www.hypnotism.co.uk/
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Nope, it has become easier to get trance in subjects actually...

Which is the reason why I am doing it.

But that's just my experience.

Smile
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I see a lot of validity in what you are doing and why. In clinical work I refer to "Medical Meditation" as often as I do hypnosis...
Same thing....
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On 2011-01-17 19:39, Nongard1 wrote:
I see a lot of validity in what you are doing and why. In clinical work I refer to "Medical Meditation" as often as I do hypnosis...
Same thing....


Coming from you, that is huge... Thanks! Smile
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On 2011-01-17 18:34, Shrubsole wrote:
So if you called it "Another Name", wouldn't it be up to the Authorities to prove otherwise and how would they do that exactly?

Authorities: "You must do XYZ as a hypnosis act."
Energy consultant: "But I'm not using hypnosis I'm employing the ancient art of gobbledygook."
Authorities: "Oh err ummm I don't think we have a form for that.... Or a law...."


Honestly, I doubt that the authorities care as much as one would believe they do. Look at NLP, the whole term and concept was created originally for the sole purpose of being able to practice hypnosis in places where hypnosis was plainly and simply illegal.
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