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I have a new member of my little "vent family" here. I actually bought him just before Christmas, but coming from outside the country, having to send a money order, the holiday mails, etc., I finally just received him on Saturday.

Anyway, he's a figure from Maher Studios made by Clinton Detweiler and family. The specific date he was made, I don't know, but the person I got him from bought the figure new from Clinton in 1972. I think he may be a "Terry" figure looking at Clinton's blog page;
http://maherphotos5.blogspot.com/
I've sent pictures to Clinton to see what anything he can tell me about the figure that I wasn't already told or figured out on my own.
UPDATE (even before I got this posted): I just received an email from Clinton: "It is not a Terry. Maybe Ray or Russell...again, hard to say from the photo. And unfortunately, we no longer have records from that era. It does appear to still be in its original clothes which is amazing after nearly 40 years!"

The person I bought him from said he was hardly used, and he took great care in handling him, always kept him in the case otherwise and it shows. About the only thing that makes this figure "used" is that someone else did own him.
This figure has, aside from the obvious slotjaw, side-to-side self-centering eyes, raising eyebrows, and winkers/blinkers. Oh, and his bow tie lights up.
I also like how at the end of the headstick, there's a little metal ball that sits perfectly in a recess in the bottom of the body holding the figure's head just right if he's sitting by himself, but requires only a little lift for full animation of the head.

So anyway, here's some pictures;

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I also uploaded a couple larger pics of the figure, shows him off better, but they are too large to post in this message, they can be seen here;
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/......461b.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/......462b.jpg

This next picture is of the controls, all brass (hard to tell from my poor photography);

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This is a "little bonus" that came with the figure. It's a Colorado Sunday newspaper "magazine", dated 1972, about Clinton and the Studios. According to the person I got the figure from, Clinton was working on this figure when that article was done. There's nothing in the article that confirms that, but since the former owner was from outside the country and would not have had access to a Colorado newspaper, I can only surmise that Clinton must have told him that and sent him a copy of the "magazine" with the figure.
I asked Clinton about it, and in regard to that he wrote, "The year '72 would be the correct time line for the Empire article. And it may well have been one of those in progress on my shop bench. I have no way of confirming that now."
This is the "magazine";

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Overall, I quite like the figure, I'm very happy to have him, and it's kind of cool having a practically brand new figure from '72!
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Nice looking figure... congratulations!
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It's a very nice figure... a treasure from Maher Smile
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Great looking figure!! Congratulations on the addition to your vent family!!!
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Beautiful figure! I just purchased a 1974 MAHER figure made by Craig Lovik, yesterday. He is an ARCHIE figure, and he has all of the movements. He too looks brand spanking new. He comes in the original MAHER case from that era with an original pin that Clinton put on him, and an IBV bumper sticker on the case. I'm no good at attaching photos, but maybe this will come through. Apparently it has been a great week for finding old MAHER figures!
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Thanks everyone.
To tell the truth, either I didn't know, or had forgotten that Clinton made professional vent figures, I thought he just did the dummy conversions, (aside from all the different novelty puppets). I started in vent around '81, and by then all the "regular" figures offered through Maher were Lovik figures. So this figure was interesting for me to find and get.

Yes, Matt, I like the Loviks, especially the older ones, I have three, I'll post pictures below.
The first one is a 70s model, and he looks like new because the previous owner had sent him to Clinton to be completely redone. The second (red hair, green eyes) is one I just got off of fleabay the end of last week, but isn't here yet, I had one just like it before, they're decent little figures.
The third one, I don't have a picture of, I've referred to him in previous posts as a "lower line" Lovik that had stickers for eyes, a friend of mine I think came up with the name for them, we think they were called "Sidekicks". He's my figure I leave out for decoration and to grab quickly.

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Dave also the controls on your newest Maher figure were done by Clinton just like George Eazer taught him. Those bent into perfect shape brass levers are great. Too bad Clinton didn't continue to make them instead of going to wood log controls. Also to me he looks like the "Hal" figure.
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I agree Dan, I never had a problem with those log lever controls when I've had a figure with them, but these brass levers are definitely better.

I can't find any pictures of a "Hal", or a Ray" or "Russell" that Clinton mentioned, so I don't know. I guess it doesn't matter much other than I'm one of those who likes to know as much about his figures as possible, but I guess I know the most important things, who made him and when.
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I'm almost done with the refurbish on the old Lovik figure I have. I've been playing around with the head stick. It's an open-bottomed neck with a stick that reaches the bottom of the body. I've purchased a hard rubber furniture leg caster cup to offer a bit more stablity, and would very much like to find some sort of teflon furniture glide or something to go on the bottom of the stick.
The "living mouth"-to-slot jaw conversion worked without a hitch. The head's a bit heavier for the addition, though putting in a hollow cardboard skeleton on the Magic-Sculpt chin has been helpful.
I WISH I'd taken pictures of the figure before I started changing it. She was originally a young black woman. She is now a Caucasian wild old lady.
The hands and feet on your Lovik are identical to the ones on my "Sylvia."

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I had an Insull with a drop through neck. My solution to improve the set-up was to 'float' the headstick. The body that came with my Insull was too big for the stick to rest on the botton, so I took a bungee cable, tied in knots in the middle to shorten it, so it would fit horizontally across the inside of the body cavity side-to-side, and about 3 inches above the bottom of the body. I put a nail into the bottom of the headstick where it stuck out with the nailhead about an inch or two out from the base of the stick. Then I buried the nailhead into the knot in the bungee cord. The headstick sort of 'floated' there on the bungee cord, I could move it 360 degrees and it felt natural and smooth. It made for lively manipulation. It was a good solution. So, if there's room to cut a few inches off the base of your heastick, this might work for you.
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Mr Pitts what you have described was done by the English maker Herbert Brighton back in the 1930s. He has a spring which extended across the inside of the body and it passed through a loop attached to the bottom of the headstick. As you said this gives a drop through neck a lot of lifelike movement.
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Now that's funny! I bought bungee cords for exactly that reason yesterday!

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I'm sure I will never be replacing the jaw on my living mouth Lovik, I really like the look of his face and I'd be afraid that might change it too drastically no matter how good the jaw came out.
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I understand. But the figure as she stood wasn't one I could identify with. She didn't speak to me, so I knew I was going to change her, anyway. I figured that, as long as I was going to change her entire look, I would tackle the mouth and jaw as well.
And my ability to do this is based on years of studied ignorance regarding the process. Smile

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I can see that. I have a figure here that I don't see myself ever using as it sits except as a figure I leave out to grab quick to try out something, but I have lately thought about making some changes and turn him into a character I've been thinking about.
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I know this thread is a year old, but having searched this forum on anything "Maher" because I was considering a purchase from Clinton. I just wanted to share that today I purchased a similar looking vent from him and am really looking forward to his arrival. I'll provide pics when he's here.
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Wow, I don't believe this thread is a year old already!
Anyway, congrats on your new figure to be, can't wait to see the pictures!
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Quote:
On 2012-01-26 03:19, Dickens & Dave wrote:
Wow, I don't believe this thread is a year old already!
Anyway, congrats on your new figure to be, can't wait to see the pictures!



Thanks. I have soft figures so this will be my first hard one. I have to admit I kind of agonised over the decision because these days there are so many that have really detailed features or unique appearances, but at a price in many cases. So I wasn't sure whether to go with a Maher one being so traditional and all. However the more I looked at him the more he appealed to me and let's face it Clinton Detweiler's experience and reputation is second to none so I know I'm going to get a really good figure that I'll have for many years.
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Nice! I love vintage stuff!
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Since last I wrote in this thread, that Lovik I'd converted to slot-jaw has now also been converted to ball and socket neck (Again, based upon years of non-experience converting such things). I have also learned, since then, how to use my digital camera. My next step: Find that cord that lets me load pictures into the 'puter...and after that, who knows? Maybe even put pictures up here! Again, I sure wish I'd taken a shot of this Lovik conversion BEFORE I changed her. I DO have an old Maher catalogue here in the office, maybe I should look to see if she's in there.

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