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Buzz -
We must have composed our messages at the same time. Al DOES make his own tops. If you need a larger top - contact him. I'm willing to bet he'd help you.
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I really didn't mean to cause any trouble here. Was just trying to help. Honest. Scout's honor.

-Philip
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I went and looked at the table. Yes, it appears that it is fiberglass. I've never had any trouble with it. The top has a black carpet covering (appears to be some sort of lightweight indoor/outdoor carpet).
There's a lip that creates a recess of, perhaps, 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch. This has never been a problem for me, as my figures' legs are stuffed and "knee'd" and don't have trouble negotiating it, but I suppose if it were an issue, one could drop in another chunk of carpet to even it out. Again, no problem for me.

It's not a cymbal stand, it's a percussion stand, used by drummers to hold extra noisemakers close at hand. The base is identical to the Al Good base, right down to the heavy-duty tips on the legs. The Al Good stand has an extra whatever-you-call those wingnut tightener things. This is probably the result of adding the screw base piece on the bottom of the tabletop, as my tabletop doesn't have a screw base, but rather another tightening thing on the bottom of the table. It also has a pretty substantial steel bottom bolted onto the table base. Imagine a letter O superimposed with the letter X, extending out, way past the O. The arms of the X are bolted twice per each arm, for a total of eight bolts, and the wingnut tightening steel base is at the center of all of that.
I don't for a moment mean to disparage Al Good's stands. It's just that, when I happened to be shopping for a stand, this company was sending me catalogues, and they were having a sale on the stands and this one seemed a good fit.

-Philip
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Tacrowl

Thanks for the additional information. I appreciate every post in assisting me in my decision.

I don’t want 20 stands in my closet by purchasing on a whim.

I looked very closely at the stand on Al’s site and very closely on the WW&B web site; it looks like they are both the very same stand. Down to the detail on the struts attached to the leg and the center post along with the screw fittings.

They both have the same height measurements, Al’s site copy says it extends to approx. 40” and Philip has told me in a PM that his music stand extends to about 40”.

My figure, Dan has padded thighs that will not be a problem with the lip; in fact the lip is a plus preventing prop’s I will be using from rolling off.

This is not the end of the search, I am hopeful for further information on stands that have not as yet been posted; not only for my information, but anyone else having the same questions.
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Philip, I think these comments;
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The real test (and the one that makes me lean toward Al Good) is that I don't know the individual skills of each reader and I don't want to see anyone take a lot of time and expense in smaller amounts to try and create something
My best advice is still (again not knowing individual skill levels) buy the premade

suggest more of a problem with my suggestion about someone making their own stand.
I also can't know the skill levels of each reader, but it is possible that there are others beside myself who are capable of making things, and making them quite well so that they serve their intended purpose, plus there are some who just enjoy making things themselves if they can, saving 20-30 dollars is just a bonus.
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On 2011-01-22 16:04, Servante wrote:
I really didn't mean to cause any trouble here. Was just trying to help. Honest. Scout's honor.

-Philip


Philip, a scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. and is kind to all puppets.

Can you and your figure meet that criteria; is so you’re definitely not causing trouble.
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We can.
I was even a Boy Scout for six whole weeks.
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Philip, I think these comments;
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The real test (and the one that makes me lean toward Al Good) is that I don't know the individual skills of each reader and I don't want to see anyone take a lot of time and expense in smaller amounts to try and create something
My best advice is still (again not knowing individual skill levels) buy the premade

I also can't know the skill levels of each reader, but it is possible that there are others beside myself who are capable of making things, and making them quite well so that they serve their intended purpose, plus there are some who just enjoy making things themselves if they can, saving 20-30 dollars is just a bonus.


I plan in the future on making my own set, complete with background drapes and custom tables. Purchasing flanges, wood and stands to make tables now and then finishing it with painting will take more time and effort than I want to invest in currently.
Making a custom stand I think is best when my training is completed and I am aware on the exact height of the stand.
Now I just want to purchase an adjustable height table very soon so I can start practicing in front of a mirror and Dan.
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On 2011-01-22 16:39, Servante wrote:
We can.
I was even a Boy Scout for six whole weeks.


Six weeks, did you make eagle scout?
Can you build a table?
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I didn't make Eagle Scout, but I looked good in the uniform.
Scoutmaster was an ex-Marine drill instructor with a drinking problem ( I found out later) who thought we were Marines.
I've had a couple of uncles who were Marines, so I knew Marines...Marines were friends of mine...we were not Marines.

After one disastrous overnight, during which he got us away from civilization and shouted at us for two days, I told him (once we were back in town) what he could do with it, broke his sword across my knee, and rode off into the sunset.
I discovered him, years later, sitting in the bus station cradling a bottle of Ripple.
Thought about telling my uncles...but figured he'd suffered enough.

I did look good in the uniform. :-D

-Philip
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On 2011-01-22 16:56, Servante wrote:
I didn't make Eagle Scout, but I looked good in the uniform.

After one disastrous overnight, during which he got us away from civilization and shouted at us for two days, once we were back in I broke his sword across my knee, and rode off into the sunset.
I discovered him, years later, sitting in the bus station cradling a bottle of Ripple.

I did look good in the uniform. :-D

-Philip


See things like that make you and me the men we are today. Still playing with dolls
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Hahahaha!
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Where were we?

Oh yes, we were attempting to decide what the best figure table is.

Anyone else have an idea?
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Apologies if I came across wrong on my earlier post. Didn't mean to. And thanks for the correction - I knew the stand is used for percussion, but was thinking cymbals. (Didn't even spell it right - I needed sleep.) I was just trying to point out a couple of things - the lip, a review on broken fiberglass, and the fact that there are different qualities of stands available. If a stand/table works for you, that is all that matters.

I am extremely hard on every prop I own - constant usage and the desire to pack fast and go home after a show. The Al Good stand holds up for me. It wasn't my first. I originally made a wooden top, purchased a flange and used an adjustable microphone stand. It worked fine, but required carrying that extra microphone stand which didn't fit in my case. I still carry that top with me when flying since it fits in my carry-on. Came in handy last Nov. when the suitcase with my table never made it to Indianapolis.

Buzz, have you considered a tall case? Bill DeMar designed one that holds his figures and they sit on it when he brings them out. Saves him carrying an extra prop.
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On 2011-01-23 11:25, tacrowl wrote:

Buzz, have you considered a tall case? Bill DeMar designed one that holds his figures and they sit on it when he brings them out. Saves him carrying an extra prop.


I tried looking up the case by Goggling Bill DeMar, lots of his information returned, but nothing about a case he builds or is for sale, can you point me in a better direction?

Thanks for taking the time to reply
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He does not build the cases for sale. I believe there is a blueprint out there. Seems to me, several vents from the Café have built similar cases. Perhaps one of them will be able to direct you.
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Tom,

Thanks for the clarification; I will try to find more information about it
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Hey Buzz,

Check with Clinton Detweiler. He is notorious for having good traveling cases. I would not be surprised if he would have something like what you are looking for.

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On 2011-01-23 12:59, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
Hey Buzz,

Check with Clinton Detweiler. He is notorious for having good traveling cases. I would not be surprised if he would have something like what you are looking for.



Thanks Steve,

I have an order in with Clinton; he builds the inside of the cases and needs a clear day to finish it outdoors, Mine should be shipped within a week.

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On 2011-01-23 12:59, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
Hey Buzz,

Check with Clinton Detweiler. He is notorious for having good traveling cases. I would not be surprised if he would have something like what you are looking for.



Thanks Steve,

I have an order in with Clinton; he builds the inside of the cases and needs a clear day to finish it outdoors, Mine should be shipped within a week.

Buzz
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