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Michael Rubinstein
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I have seen the DVD Attack of the C/S coin, and Geoff Latta uses it with great results for his CSB routine, and for his coins across (on volume 1 of the NYCMS DVD series). I was just wondering if anyone was using it for something other than a c/s transpostion.
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Although you're looking for non-transpositions, I feel that Curtis Kam's Inferrential Transposition (Apocalypse vol 6) deserves a mention, due to its unique use. It's never really actively used, so heat is never on the c/s coin. Brilliant thinking.
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Does John Bannon's Aztec Orient Express count? I think this is a very unique way of using a c/s.
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The Alchemist Fantasy effect uses the C/S coin to mask the apparent change of another coin -- it is the other coin that is seen to go though transpositon, so that might count.

Several effects of the C/S TUC uses the gaff for a false count of coins rather than a transposition, i.e. it is a transportation effect. In another Matrix type effect the Copper and Silver change places, then join, then vanish.

MagicIan also has a Matrix Effect with a Copper, Silver and Chinese coin.

I have done an effect for magciains in which they think I am using a C/S coin but the cross them up -- so the "concept of a C/S coin" is used for misdirection.
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Hi Mike, I have a few routines that use a C/S coin in what I believe is a unique way. Kainoa Harbottle published "Diminishing Returns" in Coinapalooza International Deceptions, in this routine the C/S isn't used as a change or for a tranposition, BUT it's actually use to vanish a coin which remains in plain sight Smile I have another routine where it's used in the same manner. And finally I have a number of routines where the C/s is not only a copper and silver coin but takes on the role of several different coins. I first got the idea to use a C/S in this manner from John Bannon's Shanghai Suprise from Impossibilia.

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Thanks mystre71.... I forgot the name... thought it was aztec orient express... it's actually Shanghai Surprise that I was thinking of.
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On 2011-01-24 23:02, Michael Rubinstein wrote:
...I was just wondering if anyone was using it for something other than a c/s transpostion.


It makes a cute way to vanish the one silver coin from among a bunch of coppers on the table by simply turning over the gaffus in the act of picking up ... Smile

Similarly it makes an okay way to make the silver coin appear in someone's hand or on the table under a glass (ala tidlywinks change in CoinMagic)

Those are the two applications I've toyed with over the years.

I'm sure there will be other more interesting uses of the gaff to discuss. Like to hear what others have explored.

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I perform Kenton Kenpper's time machine. It's a great effect and the emphasis is that the date on the coin has changed.
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Scott Gwinn has an effect (shared in TUC Appreciation) in which the C/S is shown on both sides as having changed "half way." I would not recommend this "reveal" normally, but it makes sense within the story-line.
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I like Curtis Kam's Hoppin Half that uses this gaff.
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Stephen Tucker's Imagine 2, from his Gemini Book of Close-up Magic, uses it for a mental magic trick



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Tommy Wonder's "Counterfeiter's Spellbound" from the Books of Wonder, or Spectacle. He used the gaff not so much to cause the change from copper to silver, but to reinforce the changes. Similarly, see my "Coercive Purse" routine. (Which is referenced in the write up of Tommy's routine) I've also got a really weird version of the penny/dollar transpo using a sudbury/dollar gaff, and dual reality.

Or how's about an "any coin called for" coins across, as appears on the COINvention dvd's?

Scott Robinson's "Differences" is essentially a c/s transpo, but a 3 for one. Lovely use of the gaff.

I suppose we should mention "Presto Chango" as an early non-transpo use, and Walt Rollins' coins through table.
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Nobody gonna ask about using the scoop addunder as a cleanup after the coin appearance under the glass? Okay. Smile
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Forgot to mention an item from an old post on the Café where in a coins across you accidentally pick up an extra coin, a copper, and that's the coin that travels. That's a more practical item than the gag where you get a large penny coin into the action by picking up a regular penny along with the silvers and having a "the fly" incident. Smile

Just as an aside, if you recall Curtis Kam's Inferential Copper Silver routine - and start with two chinese coins palmed and one small chinese coin among the change you could make the coins in both their hands become chinese by tapping their fists with the one they see on your other hand. Kind of surprise instead of a repeat. Smile
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Up here n canada we have the toonie loonie copper silver coins which are 1 and 2 dollar coins. My good friend Jeff Hinchliffe has come up with some amazing and visual ideas which consists of making money disappear and reappear a dollar at t time for example his spending and saving routine. its the most unique handling ive seen the only trouble is that its unique to canadian currency because of the coins value being twice as much or half as much as each other.
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Also john Bannnon's , Shanghai surprise in impossibilia pg 76
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Chris Westfall, Where can we find Jeff's routine? Would love to check it out.

Mike R. since you started this thread, I'm thinking you have something up your sleeve? Smile

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