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fog New user 3 Posts |
I just purchased an ID. The pair of cards seems to be a bit hard to separate, so that the chosen card is face down. Do they get easier to separate as I use them, or am I doing something wrong?
Can I do something to make the two cards come apart more smoothly? |
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mrunge Inner circle Charleston, SC 3716 Posts |
Hi Fog, welcome to the Café! The cards will get easier once you use them a little. You might go through the deck and separate them anyway since they tend to cling to each other a little in the beginning from being in the box.
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haroldross New user Walthill, Nebraska 30 Posts |
I wouldn't do anything to make them separate easier. Working with them should loosen them up. Also, I found out that practicing and experimenting with how much pressure I applied to them helped. Too much pressure keeps them together.
It also could be that whoever made the ID used too much R/S. I know from personal experience in making my own ID. |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Worst case, a little powder may help. Use will likely solve the problem. (I have been known to use steel wool on a "Bad Boy".)
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
Blow through them like you're playing one of those mouth harp things, then riffle and restack them. Works for me.
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kendavis Regular user 182 Posts |
Try to LIGHTLY steel wool (OOOO grade) the rough coat off the upper left corners. To separate, just put pressure on the corner! I have also made my own ID decks. I lay out the cards and spray one swipe across the middle with rough coat (or Testers Dull Coat). The if you put pressure on the center the cards stay together. Pressure on the top or bottom will allow them to release quickly. If you are fanning, spray the coat on the cards diagonally. That will leave a pressure point for fanning which will keep the cards together. Good luck!
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
It also helps if your fingers are a little tacky. If you have dry hands, you may need a little help - either a little saliva or a product.
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whiteoakcanyon Special user 899 Posts |
I would just keep practicing with them. They will loosen with time. It also gets easier as you keep working at it. It is a great deck and definitely worth the effort. Good luck and have fun!
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
@fog - if you got one of the MagicMakers decks, it may take longer to break it in than one of the other brands, like the one at Penguin. I got a MagicMakers deck free with a DVD, and noticed that the R/S was very uneven. Way too much on some cards, and not a lot on others. Took a long time (and rubbing some cards on my pants) to get it working smoothly.
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ferraroj New user 77 Posts |
I would definitely try lotion on your hands before I would do anything to the deck. if your hands are dr it's almost impossible to get the cards to come apart.
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aechecop Regular user 117 Posts |
If the situation is a real problem, I would take every pair and move them among each other losing them up a little. Do that until you feel that the level of traction is adequate for your style. If you over do it, there is always ways to fix them.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
Never thought of using steel wool; I put the card on a hard flat surface (like a counter top) and then use a piece of old bath towel (or old wash cloth) by lightly rubbing a card with it. Same for the mate card. Then I test it out and see if they still stick or are hard to separate. If so, I repeat the process.
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Rectify New user Florida 55 Posts |
Use less pressure, when you go through the cards you want to apply pressure, but when you want them to seperate you need to barely touch the top card, and it'll slide right across the back of the other.
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Mike Ince Inner circle 2041 Posts |
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Elliot Marx New user Australia 83 Posts |
Hi Fog
Prior to making my own IDs I had similar problems with some of the 'new' decks. I found rubbing the cards' backs against each other then against a soft towel to remove the 'micro particles' (for want of a better term) worked well. I prefer making my own now as I have more control over the handling of the deck. Can be time consuming but nothing beats catching a fish on your own fly. The RS will obviously wear down in time, but this should get you up and running so your handling can be smoother. |
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Jon W. Loyal user 228 Posts |
I agree with those who have talked about playing with how much pressure you put on the cards. Less pressure is best for sure.
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RyanAdams Regular user 104 Posts |
Fog,
I personally wouldn't bother with any lotion products, I fail to see how they are practical in a working environment. I had the same issue with mine, it just takes time to loosen the cards. |
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Ihop Inner circle Glen Spey, NY 1604 Posts |
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On 2012-05-31 07:24, RyanAdams wrote: I find that applying lotion to my hands helps tremendously to separate the cards. It probably is not necessary if your hands ar NOT dry. But in my case, that is the answer. I also need lotion for other manipulations such as a bill switch. It depends on your individual situation. It may take time to loosen the cards as others have suggested OR your hands could be too dry. Ihor
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MikeBeaudet Loyal user Becancour 228 Posts |
Fog,
No hand lotion, no rubbing just play with your cards and find the right pressure, its all you need. Mike
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Ihop Inner circle Glen Spey, NY 1604 Posts |
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On 2012-06-04 14:03, TheSphinx wrote: I've been doing this for quite a while and believe me (and others) when I say, lotion IS necessary. I have no problems when my fingers are able to slide the cards. It's not just the ID deck but many other manipulations as well. I can't do the TT bill change unless I use lotion. Perhaps you do not have dry hands, therfore it is not an issue for you.
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