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Except that you will have to reset the deck if it is not in some order.
The Si Stebbins method goes right back in the box with no moving of any cards.

I had never seen Tom Baxter's calculations before and I love it.
This is a great ACAAN.
James

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On 2011-02-16 06:03, Roger Kelly wrote:
Fair enough Jan, I'm sure there must be a reason but I've been running this through my mind using a Si Stebbins and I just cant 'get it.' I mean, I don't see any benefit. Surely the alternative method that Patrick teaches in a mixed deck is less of a prep and therefore, the way to go?

But, of course, I see the benefit of a mem-deck, if that is firmly planted in one's brain. But any none mem stack, like a cyclical... Hmmmm, maybe its just me. (But I couldn't (or wouldn't!) walk until I was two, and I've only just removed the stabilisers from my bike!)
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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While we're on the topic of stacks, anybody using Mnemonica?
I own the book but I have yet to take the plunge.
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So, if you use a Si Stebbings or an Aronson stack and the spec picks, for instance, 34, would you know which card was in that location? If so then this would be easier for me in the long run.
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You absolutely would. This is what a mem stack of the si-stebbins system explained on the DVD would offer. Though I wish to be clear to anyone considering this... the effect does not need to use a full deck stack or any stack where a pattern is evident. If you can count to five you can easily have the Hands Off system work on your behalf from what is 95% a truly shuffled pack without any memorization or crazy calculations. Stacks certainly will work with Hands Off but really aren't necessary.
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...If you can count to five you can easily have the Hands Off system work on your behalf from what is 95% a truly shuffled pack without any memorization or crazy calculations. Stacks certainly will work with Hands Off but really aren't necessary.


Thanks Patrick - this is exactly what I've been trying to say. Notwithstanding Jan's kind words via PM and other's opinions, I just can't see the reason or need for anything other than this method.
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Thank's Patrick. My mind goes blank when I'm perfoming so I need as much help as possible. Lol.
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I wouldn't learn a stack just for this effect (as it can easily be done without one as Patrick and others have said), but if you already know one, it'll speed up the proceedings.

Plus, on the off chance that spectator 1 would happen to name exactly the card that lies at the number chosen by spectator 2... well, you could simply hand them the deck right there and then. Smile
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you could simply hand them the deck right there and then. Smile


... true, but not as directly Smile
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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you could simply hand them the deck right there and then. Smile


... true, but not as directly Smile

Easy enough to clean up, I'd say. Smile
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Any more reviews on this?
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Any more reviews on this?


watched it quickly once,
it's good, clever

you are going to have to carry the 2 boxes and the gimmicks to perform this,

making the gimmick first time can take 15-30 minutes of arts and craft

there are a few discrepancies in the performance that should go unnoticed in real life but have to be edited out in the demo
you do end clean! and can continue on with your favorite card trick

no stack is required, but a stack can be used
you can either count to 5, or do some addition multiplication depending on method

Tom Baxter's Si Stebbins Secret is very very cool, I will be using this method.

The impromptu version is also surprisingly descent
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Ta very much Suux88 Smile
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watched it quickly once,
it's good, clever

you are going to have to carry the 2 boxes and the gimmicks to perform this,

making the gimmick first time can take 15-30 minutes of arts and craft

there are a few discrepancies in the performance that should go unnoticed in real life but have to be edited out in the demo
you do end clean! and can continue on with your favorite card trick

no stack is required, but a stack can be used
you can either count to 5, or do some addition multiplication depending on method

Tom Baxter's Si Stebbins Secret is very very cool, I will be using this method.

The impromptu version is also surprisingly descent


I would say there is really only one very minor discrepancy and on the DVD I explain exactly how to make this invisible even to the most discerning audience. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.

-PGR
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I have this and like it.

The only problem I have is that the first deck is brought out for no apparent reason, other than to say I won't be using this deck.

It also can't be used for an effect before you go into this.
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There are some really fine tricks with the Si Stebbins setup and if you use a stack that you know there will be many tricks you can use.
James


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I have this and like it.

The only problem I have is that the first deck is brought out for no apparent reason, other than to say I won't be using this deck.

It also can't be used for an effect before you go into this.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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Yep, I know James.
But do you know a routine where the cards remain face up throughout Smile
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Don't be put off by words of discrepancies. There is one only and it is so minor and should be familiar to anyone performing this as it is sooooo similar to a card move and goes unnoticed.

This is very clever - and for the price, I'd just get it without quibbling. You won't be disapointed. The hardest bit is making it!
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I actually think the second deck makes this stronger. It's that idea of bringing something into play that's been clearly visible from the very beginning...kind of like Tommy Wonder's card box, though in this case you wouldn't necessarily have to even mention the other deck. Just act as though you're fishing in your pockets, bring out the first deck, set it aside and bring out the second one along the guise of "I like the blue ones better" or any other number of lines. Seeing as how you're a magician I don't think too many people will find it odd that you carry two decks with you. No odder than pulling out a set of bright red sponge balls anyway Smile
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I have not been through the entire video yet but early on I sort of feel like Klass. I have no problems having two decks around. Not being able to use the first in an organic and flexible manner limits the manner in wich this can be fit into a show. If I am missing something sorry.
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When we shot this video I performed a set before the finale with the blue deck of cards. It's a simple matter of routining to make such possible. I'd be happy to help anyone in PM's who would like to learn how to do so if having trouble.

-PGR
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