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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4934 Posts 
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Except that you will have to reset the deck if it is not in some order.
The Si Stebbins method goes right back in the box with no moving of any cards. I had never seen Tom Baxter's calculations before and I love it. This is a great ACAAN. James Quote: On 2011-02-16 06:03, Roger Kelly wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Gorecki Loyal user My servante is currently filled with 267 Posts
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While we're on the topic of stacks, anybody using Mnemonica?
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pegasus Inner circle United Kingdom 9098 Posts
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So, if you use a Si Stebbings or an Aronson stack and the spec picks, for instance, 34, would you know which card was in that location? If so then this would be easier for me in the long run.
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Patrick Redford Inner circle Michigan 1739 Posts
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You absolutely would. This is what a mem stack of the si-stebbins system explained on the DVD would offer. Though I wish to be clear to anyone considering this... the effect does not need to use a full deck stack or any stack where a pattern is evident. If you can count to five you can easily have the Hands Off system work on your behalf from what is 95% a truly shuffled pack without any memorization or crazy calculations. Stacks certainly will work with Hands Off but really aren't necessary.
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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On 2011-02-17 03:56, Patrick Redford wrote: Thanks Patrick - this is exactly what I've been trying to say. Notwithstanding Jan's kind words via PM and other's opinions, I just can't see the reason or need for anything other than this method. |
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pegasus Inner circle United Kingdom 9098 Posts
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Thank's Patrick. My mind goes blank when I'm perfoming so I need as much help as possible. Lol.
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Gorecki Loyal user My servante is currently filled with 267 Posts
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I wouldn't learn a stack just for this effect (as it can easily be done without one as Patrick and others have said), but if you already know one, it'll speed up the proceedings.
Plus, on the off chance that spectator 1 would happen to name exactly the card that lies at the number chosen by spectator 2... well, you could simply hand them the deck right there and then. 
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1533 Posts
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On 2011-02-17 09:35, Gorecki wrote: ... true, but not as directly
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Gorecki Loyal user My servante is currently filled with 267 Posts
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On 2011-02-17 10:04, doriancaudal wrote: Easy enough to clean up, I'd say.
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gh256 Loyal user 251 Posts
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Any more reviews on this?
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Suux88 Loyal user 201 Posts
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On 2011-02-17 17:31, gh256 wrote: watched it quickly once, it's good, clever you are going to have to carry the 2 boxes and the gimmicks to perform this, making the gimmick first time can take 15-30 minutes of arts and craft there are a few discrepancies in the performance that should go unnoticed in real life but have to be edited out in the demo you do end clean! and can continue on with your favorite card trick no stack is required, but a stack can be used you can either count to 5, or do some addition multiplication depending on method Tom Baxter's Si Stebbins Secret is very very cool, I will be using this method. The impromptu version is also surprisingly descent |
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gh256 Loyal user 251 Posts
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Ta very much Suux88
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Patrick Redford Inner circle Michigan 1739 Posts
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I would say there is really only one very minor discrepancy and on the DVD I explain exactly how to make this invisible even to the most discerning audience. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. -PGR |
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David Klass Special user Beckenham, England 925 Posts
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I have this and like it.
The only problem I have is that the first deck is brought out for no apparent reason, other than to say I won't be using this deck. It also can't be used for an effect before you go into this. |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4934 Posts
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There are some really fine tricks with the Si Stebbins setup and if you use a stack that you know there will be many tricks you can use.
James Quote: On 2011-02-18 05:07, David Klass wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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David Klass Special user Beckenham, England 925 Posts
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Yep, I know James.
But do you know a routine where the cards remain face up throughout
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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Don't be put off by words of discrepancies. There is one only and it is so minor and should be familiar to anyone performing this as it is sooooo similar to a card move and goes unnoticed.
This is very clever - and for the price, I'd just get it without quibbling. You won't be disapointed. The hardest bit is making it! |
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2661 Posts
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I actually think the second deck makes this stronger. It's that idea of bringing something into play that's been clearly visible from the very beginning...kind of like Tommy Wonder's card box, though in this case you wouldn't necessarily have to even mention the other deck. Just act as though you're fishing in your pockets, bring out the first deck, set it aside and bring out the second one along the guise of "I like the blue ones better" or any other number of lines. Seeing as how you're a magician I don't think too many people will find it odd that you carry two decks with you. No odder than pulling out a set of bright red sponge balls anyway
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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Xcath1 Inner circle 2524 Posts
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I have not been through the entire video yet but early on I sort of feel like Klass. I have no problems having two decks around. Not being able to use the first in an organic and flexible manner limits the manner in wich this can be fit into a show. If I am missing something sorry.
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Patrick Redford Inner circle Michigan 1739 Posts
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When we shot this video I performed a set before the finale with the blue deck of cards. It's a simple matter of routining to make such possible. I'd be happy to help anyone in PM's who would like to learn how to do so if having trouble.
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