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Matt Ferro
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I'm going on vacation to California and I decided to bring some tricks(of course). I'm bringing them in a bag on board with me and in my bag I have pen through dollar and some other metalic items. would those mess up the metal detectors? or should I just put them in my lugage? thanx
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Alan Munro
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Unless you can afford to lose them, put them in your luggage. The pen could be confiscated because it can easily be used as a weapon.
Matt Ferro
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I also have a Kaps on Fire Wallet and I'm guessing I should also put that in my luggage?
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Alexander the Magician
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Take cards on the plane, carry on NOTHING else. NOTHING, its only a couple hours, you'll make it.
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Actually last August I took my entire close-up briefcase to Mexico. I went through three airports in and three out, twice through customs and no one even opened the case.

They did have a procedure where they checked the locks, hinges and handle for signs of explosives. I figured when it went through the metal detector it would have to be opened, but not at all.

I did go through it and removed any questionable items such as the cap gun I used for my Sure As Shootin shooting through a card routine, the butter knife for a card stab trick, etc.

I suppose I was just lucky but the way I see it I would rather they lose my luggage than that case of magic.
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Mark Martinez
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Alexander, nothing? He can take his cards and a good book! Smile

I also went to Mexico not to long ago and carried my close-up pouch on the whole trip and was only asked to open it up once...

I did remember to REMOVE my color changing knives, that might have been a problem. Smile
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I always carry on my close-up case with me. I made a boo-boo a while back by not checking before I got on the plane.

I was booked at a conference to do strolling magic the night before at the intro cocktail party and at the last night's party. I asked my host to buy me a container of lighter fluid since I could not fly with it. I carried my close-up case on with me.

My host bought the lighter fluid as requested and I used it the first night in my fire wallet and I put the rest into my close-up case in the same spot I always do, so I could use it for the last night of the conference.

On the last day, the conference center experienced a brown out so we were moved to a new location. Well, the transportation to the new location and setup time ate into the dinner schedule and my strolling gig was cut. No biggie. The problem is, I forget to remove the lighter fluid from my close-up case.

The next day I flew out of San Diego to Salt Lake with no problem. I had a 4-hour layover in Salt Lake so I left the airport for a little while. When I returned, they did a thorough search of my case and found the lighter fluid. It was not a laughing matter.

It took over an hour to get that worked out. And of course I missed my flight and had to wait for the late one. The moral of the story is - even if you're sure, check again. Bob
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Sounds like that was a painful experience.

I remember flying to Dallas from Toronto, and forgetting to empty out some questionable items from my pockets (it was a business trip for the full time job, not a magic related trip.) I alway carry a few things on me just in case, (TT, cards, a few coins, and lately my Ninja Rings).

Well, the people at the airport were a little more than curious as to what they were for, but it was sorted out in about 10 minutes.

David.
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When I did Mac World in 2002, I ran into some very unpleasant issues with airport security.

First, outbound from Chicago - no problem. All of my stuff was checked, but no problems.

On the way BACK, flying out of Laguardia, things got decidedly dicey.

In my carry on, I had my act and in it I had a lunchbox that I got as a gag prop from American Science Center. It's a typical tin lunchbox with a Radiation Hazard tag on one side and a Biohazard sign on the other.

I had checked with the FAA and the offices of airport security before going out there and was told that, because it was a prop and obviously no threat (it held a deck of cards, some sponge balls and some rubber bands), that there would be no problem. I even had a copy of the faxed notice with me.

At Laguardia, the security guy scans my stuff and opens it.

I am suddenly getting rhinoscopy with the business end of an M-16 from the National Guardsman standing at the booth.

They stopped just short of a strip search. NOT fun.

Other things to be aware of - airport security does not seem to like the following items (I speak from experience) - color changing knives, even if the blades are glued down and inoperable, scissors of ANY kind, nail clippers (New York, especially.

I always wondered about that one - what is someone going to do with a pocket nail clipper - MANICURE the passengers to death?!

They also do not like ANY kind of liquid that is not in a water bottle that you may be asked to drink from. Slush powder, if found, will probably earn you a strip search. Flash paper, remarkably, does not seem to be much of a problem except in Miami where they do the sniffer devices and even there, you can usually get them to go with it by proving you are a magician.

So be careful, folks. Airport security is no longer a laughing matter.

Now, can anyone tell me how to get this muzzle flash deflector out of my right sinus cavity?

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Matt Ferro
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thanks for all the posts, it's really helpful and hopefully I wont have to learn first hand on some of these!
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Payne
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Coins can cause problems as well. I always carry my Lassen gaffs with me as carry on as I don't trust the airlines enough to put them in my luggage. I am stopped everytime and searched. I was told by security that they are now making knives that can be hidden in coins.
I don't know if this is true, it's just what I was told.
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Bruce Johnson (Charlie the Juggling Clown) tells a wonderful story of going through customs at the airport and when they opened his trunk marked Magic Props, his appearing cane opened and shot across the room.

He then had some explaining to do Smile
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I travel with my close-up case every time I travel. I make it a point to inform security before I go through the line as to the nature of the objects I am carrying. Pyrotechniques and knives are never accepted, therefore they must go with your checked luggage.
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Ahem, Michaels, how about sharing with everyone what happened to you a long time ago when you forgot to remove the Al Cohen effect from your jacket? It's a really funny story (but if it happened today, you'd be doing "bar" magic as in magic behind bars). Smile
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I agree with MrHypno...
Really intelligent people don't wind up in airport security jobs. Seriously, what real damage could be done with nail clippers? Yet you can take a steel Cross pen on board with no problem at all and I can think of at least 6 ways to kill, maim or otherwise incapacitate a person with a good ball point pen. However the business class passengers wouldn't be without a pen or pencil...so what is security really all about?
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Alan Munro
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When I was a kid, some pop cans had to be opened with a can opener, and those cans were much thicker and tougher than today's aluminum cans -- similar to a soup can. I used BIC pens to open those cans! The commercial from the 70's gave me the idea. A BIC is one nasty weapon.
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Yeah, it would seem that a shaprened pencil would be much more dangerous than a nail clippers... Maybe they're worried about those blades that some nail clippers have on them that are used to remove dirt from under the nails. I guess that could be used as a weapon, sort of.
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"Anything is a weapon in the hands of one who understands." - Chiun, Master of Sinnanju, from the Destroyer novels.

Unfortunately, airport security views things through a myopic set of regulations that misses some serious items, like the Bic pen (they ignore it because it takes more skill and power to use it than an edged weapons, I'm told), drumsticks (a triple paradiddle on someone's cranium can be FATAL!), belts with large buckles (see any Jet Li movie), and a host of other innocent items, including glass bottles!

But they have their marching orders, so we who conjure have to deal with it.

Just be careful, check the regulations and cooperate when they tell you to do something - do it cheerfully.

Having an M-16 jammed up your nose with the Safety OFF is NOT an experience I want to experience again, nor do I wish it on anyone else!

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Whoa! Hold on! Did that really happen to you? If it did then could you please explain? I don't mean to bring back any bad memories but you stirred my curiosity!

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On 2003-08-01 17:52, Larry Davidson wrote:
Ahem, Michaels, how about sharing with everyone what happened to you a long time ago when you forgot to remove the Al Cohen effect from your jacket? It's a really funny story (but if it happened today, you'd be doing "bar" magic as in magic behind bars). Smile

(Transferred from another forum)
About 30 years ago when it was cool to wear a sports jacket with an open shirt and no tie is when my story begins. I was in college at the time at Maryland University when I decided to fly to Florida on spring break to cultivate my tan for the then accepted fashion with a sports coat.

Whenever I flew back then, I would wear a sports coat and it was always loaded with "Dagger Dime" which was one of the first tricks I ever purchased from Al Cohen in DC.
For those that are unfamiliar with "Dagger Dime" I will describe. It was a six inch blade covered by a sheath which was attached to an elastic pull. The effect I assume is obvious.

Forgetting that the blade was up my right sleeve, security proceeded to pull me aside after I went through the x-ray type machine. As I'm explaining to security that the miniature dagger up my sleeve was a magic trick, approx. 2 more guards appeared out of nowhere. After being thoroughly searched they requested I demo the trick to prove my innocence. Still skeptical I proceeded to demo a few tricks in my carry-on bag. Needless to say I was scared out of my mind and the security got a free 5 min. performance. Try performing under those conditions without shaking.

Today, that would have landed me in jail.
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