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Lawrence O
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Who is this Robert Wall Nuts anyways? Even if according to Ed Brown and Harry Riser he supplies a miracle, I'm still to see him borrow a ring, magically transfer it in an olive which is in turn magically transferred into a wallnut before the routine is performed and, for the climax braking the wallnut to take out the olive, brake the olive and take out the ring.... but I'm sure that Robert can't do that or we would have seen it on Youtube!
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On 2011-03-29 13:33, Lawrence O wrote:
Who is this Robert Wall Nuts anyways? Even if according to Ed Brown and Harry Riser he supplies a miracle, I'm still to see him borrow a ring, magically transfer it in an olive which is in turn magically transferred into a wallnut before the routine is performed and, for the climax braking the wallnut to take out the olive, brake the olive and take out the ring.... but I'm sure that Robert can't do that or we would have seen it on Youtube!


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One tip: when Dai Vernon would perform the effect, he would manage to allow any wallnut other than Robert's so that a spectator could pick it up, testifying by the same token that the nut was genuinely nut (if my English is correct.)
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Wait.. your other post was a joke right?

Robert Wall Nuts??? Am I missing something?

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Randi, the walnut arrived and it is fantastic. Thanks for fast service.
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On 2011-03-30 00:50, randirain wrote:
Wait.. your other post was a joke right?

Robert Wall Nuts??? Am I missing something?

Randi


Not the best joke, but yes it was. Now how do you like the idea to supply a climax for Harry Riser's effect with an object, vanished before the effect, ending up after the nuts to glass into one of the non rubber walnuts (kind of card to the lemon but with a borrowed ring or signed bill)? The travel of the content somehow substantiate that the walnuts did actually travel into the glass
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I'm working on ways to NOT use a tube/can, but a handkerchief... and to minimize having the glass bottom side up for for than a second or two, using the Kaps cups and balls loading ideas. And possibly a Bob Stencil final load method???
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Your bottomless glass went out today Pete via priority mail.
You should get it by Wednesday.

There are 3 glasses left people!!

Contact me if you want one, they are not on my website.
Once they are gone, they are gone.

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Thanks you Randi.... hey you guys, check out the foam bananas.
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Randi, PM'd you for a glass.

BTW, the walnut arrived and looks great.

Tastes like a real walnut too!!! How did you do that?
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Accidentally ate mine too... off to the Nut Shoppe at Farmer's Market.
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Well... From what I hear...

The trick originated from a gag toy that was a rubber walnut.
I guess you were supposed to slip it into a dish of real walnuts.
Then when someone picks it up and tries to crack it, it just squishes...
And that was supposed to be funny.

Then like most stuff, a magician finds it one day and says "I can do something with that."

So in the spirit of things...
You really have to make it realistic to be able to fool someone that's trying to crack it.

SO I not only make it look like a walnut, it tastes, and even smells like one too.
How do I do that?

Gnomes.
I have gnomes that do all that for me.

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We all know that Gnomes are crazy nutz.

Posted: Apr 6, 2011 10:29am
I wonder who created the effect. Riser says, his book, he got it from Persi Diaconis. Vernon was said to have a routine. Anyone have any more information on it?
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The information about the gag walnut was told to me by Brian.
I think he said it was Dai that came up with it.

So as far as I know, that's the history he found when putting out the effect the first time.

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I've seen a film with Vernon performing the effect and, as already reported, allowing one of the (real) walnuts rolling off the table for a spectator to kindly pick it up (implicitely witnessing that the walnut is real).

This is not a proof of precedence, but it's a proof that The Professor had spent time seriously polishing the effect.
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Also from what I was told...

The company that made the rubber walnut stopped making them and make plastic ones.
The plastic ones didn't have the same ability of the rubber ones, so the tick went away.

And thanks everyone...

The bottomless glasses are all gone.

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Regarding the origin of the routine, the effect and the method are described in the fac simile of Bruce Cervon's Castle Noteebooks Vol 1 published by L&L p 180 where it is attributed on February 7, 1965 to "Vernon" (way before Ed Brown publication).

Admittedly this is not an actual proof but, with that written date, it could be considered as circumstancial evidence
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Once again... What's Old is New!
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... including this new statement, Pete

:)
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