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I am sure the over/under on this thread will be pretty slim but lets see if we can talk like adults.

I have heard people postulate that it is our presidents fault that the Egypt thingie is happening, that he has caused this or that by appearing weak. Also that it spiraled into the unrest in other places. I will be the first to admit that I'm all for pinnng anything on him we can, but isn't it a bit of a reach to try to pin things on him that have been happening since literally the beginning of recorded time? Seriously we should blame him for the solar flares also in my view LOL.

I mean sure he could handle things differently, maybe take a different posture or what not, but seriously is it his FAULT? Ahhh just confused is all sorry. As I said lets blame him for whatever we can. As I understand it he had a hand in that whole killing Lincoln thing. (In my view it makes as much sense.) I just guess politics is getting too "politicy" for me.
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Heh. Obama can't win. If he does anything about Egypt, he's doing too much. If he does less, he's not doing enough.

I think he played it smart by staying short of outright asking Mubarak to step down. That way, if Mubarak didn't step down, he wouldn't appear weak, but he also wouldn't appear to be the bully by forcing a foreign dictator to resign. That said, I'm also guessing there was quite a bit of maneuvering by our government that we didn't hear about.
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I've not heard anyone blame Obama but then again I tend not to watch the news networks most point their boney fingers at. I don't think they really gave much thought to what Obama thought or what he says.
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Obama, you know, the shadow leader of the UK.
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No I don't think its anything to do with him. I think its all to do with the price of food really.
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On 2011-02-26 22:42, Dannydoyle wrote:
I am sure the over/under on this thread will be pretty slim but lets see if we can talk like adults.

I have heard people postulate that it is our presidents fault that the Egypt thingie is happening, that he has caused this or that by appearing weak. ... politics is getting too "politicy" for me.


Some people seem to have taken Mavis Beacon as their leader and type all sorts of things. Often the same sort who expect their own personal beliefs will seen sensible and best practice for others.

Egypt and Libya are not as of yet parts of our country and the folks that live there can decide on their own what they'd like for a government.
Perhaps their armies want to get paid directly by our foreign aid payments?

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On 2011-02-26 23:49, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Often the same sort who expect their own personal beliefs will seen sensible and best practice for others.



That's just about all of us, in varying degrees. I'm glad that my elected officials agree that it's sensible and best practice to use force to incarcerate people who disagree with my personal belief that they shouldn't kill, rape, or rob people.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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What BLAME would the President earn even if he had gotten this particular ball rolling?

One less dictator in the world is usually a good thing, isn't it?
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I have a feeling , being a Mystic and all...that all these world events are meant to happen in the way they are happening.

One thing I can't stand is people blaming people for it...like Obama...who does he blame is what I'd like to know.
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Some dictators seem to be doing okay and flying beneath the radar. You may be surprised by some countries that are dictatorships.
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On 2011-02-26 23:54, LobowolfXXX wrote:
... I'm glad that my elected officials agree that it's sensible and best practice to use force to incarcerate people who disagree with my personal belief that they shouldn't kill, rape, or rob people.


They being who? Most in power use armies or at least the police under the auspices of "internal security" to keep their hands clean. And you say they check with you before ordering those robberies etc? Impressive. Or perhaps those are Mavis Beacon's beliefs?
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On 2011-02-26 23:54, LobowolfXXX wrote:
... I'm glad that my elected officials agree that it's sensible and best practice to use force to incarcerate people who disagree with my personal belief that they shouldn't kill, rape, or rob people.


They being who? Most in power use armies or at least the police under the auspices of "internal security" to keep their hands clean. And you say they check with you before ordering those robberies etc? Impressive. Or perhaps those are Mavis Beacon's beliefs?



"They" being "people who disagree with my personal belief that they shouldn't kill, rape, or rob people." To the extent that not all killing is wrong, I agree that "murder" would be a better word choice.


The part after "And you say" doesn't sound at all like anything I said, but if it helps you make your point, feel free to ascribe various positions to me. I think what I said was, I'm glad that they agree. By agree, I meant the first definition in both Random House and Harper Collins, roughly "to have the same opinion or view." But I bet you really know they didn't consult with me, you sly dog!

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If my previous post was at all unclear, Jon, it was in response to your suggestion that there was a particular "sort" who "expect their own personal beliefs will seen (sic) sensible and best practice for others." My post was to suggest that for all intents and purposes, there is no such "sort." We ALL expect that.
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Don't be hating on Mavis! She's a good woman!
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On 2011-02-27 00:17, Christopher Rinaldi wrote:

One thing I can't stand is people blaming people for it...like Obama...who does he blame is what I'd like to know.

Bush.

(Lol. I couldn't pass up that set-up line.)
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On 2011-02-27 07:25, balducci wrote:
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On 2011-02-27 00:17, Christopher Rinaldi wrote:

One thing I can't stand is people blaming people for it...like Obama...who does he blame is what I'd like to know.

Bush.

(Lol. I couldn't pass up that set-up line.)


Ok now we have a problem, you beat me to that one! Grrrr. Darn funny dude.
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"President Obama required stitches when he was elbowed during a basketball game over the holiday. Out of force of habit, he blamed George Bush.". -Jay Leno.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Where did he get that Irish name from?
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He was born in Ireland...they changed it from O'bama when they moved here.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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