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PsiDroid Inner circle 2164 Posts |
Mr.Allen: of course shrubsole wants to stay anonymous.
otherwise we would see all the lies he posted about him and his delusion of being a working performer up to now........ |
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
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On 2011-03-10 04:39, PsiDroid wrote: ...and this from a person named PsiDroid. Now that's ironic.
Magic is a vanishing art.
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Lord Of The Horses Inner circle 5406 Posts |
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On 2011-03-10 17:28, edh wrote: I would not say it's more ironic than from someone named Edh...
Then you'll rise right before my eyes, on wings that fill the sky, like a phoenix rising!
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
...or Lord of the Horses.
Magic is a vanishing art.
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
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On 2011-03-09 21:41, Cameron Francis wrote: The main reason I want to see demo videos is to suss the effect, as experienced by the spectator. If that means I suss the method as well, I'll still buy it - as long as I don't think an intelligent spectator will likely suss the method. Problem is, you really can't rely on advertising copy or edited demos (see the "Cansposed" debacle) to make an informed decision. Knowledgeable reviews or an unedited demo of an actual performance give you a much better idea of what you're purchasing, and whether it will be worth the investment and effort in practice and rehearsal. If you don't have reliable reviews or a quality demo, you're just rolling the dice. Now, I'm happy to "roll the dice" with a creator who has a great track record, as Boris Wild does. Odds are that he's not going to attach his name to a dud. Similarly, I've purchased things from you, Cameron, without much knowledge of what would be included, based entirely on past positive experiences. Haven't been let down yet. But someone without those past experiences can't be expected to start from a basis of trust.
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
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On 2011-03-10 04:23, Jon Allen wrote: I'm not trying to sell you anything! So take my views with a pinch of salt or hang on every word, it's entirely up to you. Where does this frankly idiotic notion that you have to put up your real name and photo or what you have to say is less, come from? If I read good advice on here that means something to me, then it remains good advice regardless of if there is a name next to it or whose name is next to it. Conversely bad advice given by a big ego remains bad advice no matter how big their ego gets.
Winner of the Dumbringer Award for total incompetence. (All years)
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
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On 2011-03-10 04:39, PsiDroid wrote: As the big ironic foot in the mouth has been pointed out already, it only remains to ask you directly how you know that it is all lies if you have no idea who I am? Where is your logic? So I can only take your post for what it is: An unfounded load of rubbish based on you wanting to join the elitist gang and woo-woo workers over on another forum. But you have to have you name and photo up for that, so double irony!
Winner of the Dumbringer Award for total incompetence. (All years)
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
Shrubsole has, in effect, answered Jon's question.............. Shrubsole isn't selling anything, has nothing to prove, and isn't obligated to do any more than he's already done...........which is to comment on, or question Boris's effect.
Boris, on the other hand, is selling a product he wants us to buy.............only he doesn't want to show it to us before we buy it. Boris can do whatever he wants of course..........but if his sycophants are going to clutter up the Café hawking his products, then questions as to a demo will absolutely be asked, and those asking the question will have every right to ask it. If Boris doesn't want those questions asked, the answer is to simply stay off the Magic Café when attempting to hawk his goods...........and Presto, folks won't ask obvious questions as to exactly what it is he's trying to sell them, and even more rightfully ask why he won't show it to them. |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
I suggest if you want to see a beautiful CAAN take a peek at Marrk Calabreses effect that he performs live for you on skype and mark isn't selling it , I don'ty mean to hijack this thread , only this is another magicians way of demonstrating his effect with out a book
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
So as to be absolutely clear.........Boris's explanation in this thread is more than acceptable as a response.
In which case, we would bid Mr. Wild a good-bye, and render this thread as complete.......over and done with. There's simply nothing left to talk about. |
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
Hi Silverking,
Who are the *sycophants* cluttering up the Café *hawking* Boris's products? Who is trying to gain favour with him simply by flattering him? Who's trying to force people to buy it? As far as I can see, people are either in favour of his decision not to put up a video and those who are not?
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Jon may I say something
I remember when you first came oput with your effect double back. I seen it performed/ I made a statement and said for me this is the best small packet trick of the year and I still say this .Do you think for one second if I did not see this performed I would never have made this statement and never even purchased it. I watched the demo and still bought the effect even though I new the method because it looked that good vinny |
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Sariel Loyal user 258 Posts |
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On 2011-03-09 20:21, edh wrote: Regrettably you are the living proof of that. |
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cdmdu New user 51 Posts |
I don't feel this need of a video demo:
everybody know the ACAAN effect so no one of us will learn anything as looking a video about ACAAN: the effect is known. And, for a ACCAN effect, a video can easily be gimmicked as well, so I don't think that a video could prove the mighty power of an ACAAN effect with all the spectators saying "AAAAAH!!" or "OOHH!" or crying and shouting "OMG! How do you do that?!?!". This is not an add to sell the new box transforming a King of heart into a copper coin under the public's eyes. But a video of Boris performing his effect will show us his own presentation. As the presentation of this effect is quite a private conversation with the public, showing this has no interest! The magician's feeling with his public is different at each performance, and the dialogues, the attitude, the body's moves, are the own property, the own personality of the magician. So, I understand Boris way to not show any demo: I think this is really an help for each magician to liberate himself. You have the method, you can now create what you want to. BTW, I've no interest in Boris Wild's productions and I promise he doesn't know who I am. |
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
One of the best methods of acaan to be released so far was the book by john born meant to be, It was very close to all the conditions of the grail or berglas effect. I have never seen him perform this and have not seen a video demo. even though I modified his method I would have not been able to work out my method without reading his book. If the grail is what you seek why would the fact that you cant see a demo stop you from buying a book by such a respected magician. or don't you find reading how other magicians work out the acaan puzzle worth a read?
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Jean-Luc.R. Inner circle QUEBEC - CANADA 1488 Posts |
The most exciting version of «Any Card At Any Number» from the ingenious mind of a FISM Award Winner!
A prediction deck is introduced before the effect starts and remains in the card case until the end. A first spectator freely names any number, whether it is his birthday or a number from 1 to 52. He can really say any number. No restrictions. No force or equivoque. Totally free choice. A second spectator freely names any playing card from a deck of fifty-two. No restrictions. No force or equivoque. Totally free choice. A third spectator counts down to the named number by turning the cards face up. The card revealed in the position of the number freely named by the first spectator matches the card freely named by the second spectator! The performer does not touch the cards. He does not even open the card case. The spectator does everything. The card is always revealed at the exact named number. * No stooges or even “instant stooges”. No pre-show. No assistant required. * No table needed. Can be performed anywhere: stage, stand up, close up and even walk around. * No sleights. No memorized deck or mnemonic work. No formulas or sequences to remember. No mental calculations to learn. Can be performed by anybody. * No rough and smooth. No sticky cards. No short cards. The cards can be freely handled by the spectator. They are normal as you use your own cards. * Can be repeated as many times as you want with a different number and a different card each time. Resets in a few seconds. Great little book, 52 pages, 47 photos, hardback cover, printed in two colors on satin paper. |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
Some people have already received it here in France!
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
So if this efect is that clean why dosen't Boris show a demo with him performing it. I still say talk is cheap
one picture is worth a thousand words vinny |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On 2011-03-12 12:14, vinsmagic wrote: What would be the point to see someone name a card, another one name a number, and then see a counting to that card? Every magician knows the description of the effect and what it looks like, so I do not understand why you absolutely want to see a demo...
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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entermagic Special user 810 Posts |
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On 2011-03-11 21:57, Jean-Luc.R. wrote: I saw a video performance on youtube about Boris Wild and he is a great performer. ACAAB sounds really good. Just a question in order to avoid misunderstanding: You say the perfomer doesn't touch the cards. Do you mean that he doesn't touch the cards, but he can touch the box or he doesn't touch anything (box and cards)? Can I perform it with any deck? Or I need to build a gimmick? Does it require only one deck? Thank you advanced for the clarification. MP |
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