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McAllisterMagic
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stoneunhinged
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Worth watching. Further thoughts might take a while. I am slow.
Dannydoyle
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Not being a member of that horrible fad, I have personally killed NOTHING.
Danny Doyle
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Don't post ANYTHING on the web which you want kept private. The hypothesis that we have to alter the web to let kids experience privacy is moronic. There is plenty of privacy in everyday life to be had. The Web is not such a place. Your cell phone is not such a place. Failure to understand this, is failure to understand privacy. Children of today value social connections above privacy. Maybe that is because they have much more experience with public social exchanges than with close private ones.

Now, the web might want to establish some sort of privacy to allow it grow more as a product. Anyone who steps in that mess, however, will be prime for a surprise down the road.
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On 2011-03-08 15:39, Tom Cutts wrote:
Don't post ANYTHING on the web which you don't want kept private. The hypothesis that we have to alter the web to let kids experience privacy is moronic. There is plenty of privacy in everyday life to be had. The web however is not such a place. Your cell phone is not such a place. Failure to understand this is failure to understand privacy.


Do you mean don't post anything on the web which you DO want kept private?
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On 2011-03-08 15:39, Tom Cutts wrote:
Don't post ANYTHING on the web which you don't want kept private. The hypothesis that we have to alter the web to let kids experience privacy is moronic. There is plenty of privacy in everyday life to be had. The web however is not such a place. Your cell phone is not such a place. Failure to understand this is failure to understand privacy.


More problematically, it is a failure to value privacy and a failure to understand the possible long-term consequences of recent lapses of judgment.

John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
Tom Cutts
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Yeah, managed to post it before I was done. Darn Internet! Smile
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On 2011-03-08 15:44, Tom Cutts wrote:
Yeah, managed to post it before I was done. Darn Internet! Smile


I am sorry man. I knew the point you were making, and it is dead on balls accurate. (An industry term.) It speaks volumes. It is concice and it really needs to be considered.
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McAllisterMagic
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Once you post something it's on the internet forever for everyone to see.
Most kids these days are very unaware of that. Even your empolyer
checks your facebook, so it seems like we better watch what we
say these days...
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I never understand the FB problem.

Look up my name and you will get a pic of an actor, and where I live-nothing else. Potential employers cant see anything.

As far as the FB haters, its rare that someone actually uses their status as what you think/hear-no "sitting watching the simpsons" or "washing the car".


But there is some of that
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I don't quite get the whole facebook thing but I've seen posts on there from people that shouldn't even be stated in public yet alone put out where anyone can find it. One fellow I know would, and at time still does, puts very offensive statements about race etc and I warned him about it and he did his 'I have rights' thing, then his employer saw it. He no longer works for them.
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"Have WE killed our privacy?"

"We" being those who make their private info available, yes.

Interesting that many use that standard, that you made it available, others can do with that information what they wish, for this, but wouldn't apply it to anything labeled intellectual property. Post info about yourself on facebook, and people can and will use said info, and possibly republish it. Do that with a pdf, and oh boy.

Any who:
"Don't post ANYTHING on the web which you want kept private."

Sums it up. It's no different that saying something in person, and then being annoyed that others know what you said.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

I won't forget you Robert.
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On 2011-03-08 16:11, McAllisterMagic wrote:
Once you post something it's on the internet forever for everyone to see.
Most kids these days are very unaware of that.


I agree, most kids these days are not too bright.
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On 2011-03-08 19:23, gdw wrote:

Interesting that many use that standard, that you made it available, others can do with that information what they wish, for this, but wouldn't apply it to anything labeled intellectual property. Post info about yourself on facebook, and people can and will use said info, and possibly republish it. Do that with a pdf, and oh boy.



Sleight of hand befitting a magician, indeed! In the case of a pdf, of course, it's not the INFORMATION that's protected; it's the specific tangible expression of that information
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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I agree with those who say that anything posted in such ways should be considered public and inherits no expectation of privacy. Potential schools, employers, and in-laws are free to have such info.

Remember: Anything you say can and will be used against you…
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