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Craig Petty
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Hi guys.

This weeks show is now live!

On this weeks show we look at Drink Magic, Red Mirror, Cash Flow and Angelux.

As normal guys we love your feedback so please let us know what's good, what's bad, what you like and what don't like! We can only improve with your help!

Thanks again

Craig

Link to show - Click Here!
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The Wizard Product Review, Review:

Entertainment 100%
Side splitingly funniness 101%
Products -300%
Usefulness to Mentalists 0%

Just off to buy Drinks Magic! Smile

Great show as usual. Thank you for preventing us from buying some seriously bad crap!
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Agree with Dave Smile

Will you be doing a companion DVD for Drinks Magic like you did for WOW 2.0? Smile
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Hey chaps!

loving wpr! do you guys review e-books aswell?
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Great show as usual.
Is "Black Sock Production" available as a single trick DVD?
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On 2011-03-09 12:52, iainmacleod wrote:
Great show as usual.
Is "Black Sock Production" available as a single trick DVD?


Funnily enough apparently he does sell the 20oz production as a single trick. So yes - but you've have to be mad to buy it!!!
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I always laugh my head off whilst watching the wizard product review. Another great episode.
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Although I love the negative reviews. You should let people know how great John Guastafero's stuff is. Modular, practical, entertaining, doable. Except for the odd trick I actually have trouble finding card stuff that is better for real world performance.
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On 2011-03-09 14:46, Craig Petty wrote:
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On 2011-03-09 12:52, iainmacleod wrote:
Great show as usual.
Is "Black Sock Production" available as a single trick DVD?


Funnily enough apparently he does sell the 20oz production as a single trick. So yes - but you've have to be mad to buy it!!!


What happens if you only have 15oz feet?
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Another very entertaining show and the best thing....Nothing that I can't live without,,,, Regardless I agree with Dave regarding the Red Mirror dvd why put it out if the buyer isn't allowed to use it.
Im also with Craig's BOLD statement a few weeks ago on Matt Mello's Modern Mentalism I thought it was a GREAT set of dvds..but Im a nobody so what does it matter what I think LOL
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Still laughing my *** off! However, I can't do any of them, or perhaps better put......would I care to do so!

I've come to appreciate Dave's view and perspective as to those that don't care to do "knuckle busting" magic for other magicians. So, with that said, if Dave is giving such bad reviews as compared to Craig (which is certainly not the norm) it would seem as though we have a few "iFloat Awards" this week! Smile
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I was rather surprised by the notice at the beginning of Red Mirror as well. In thirty five years in magic that is the first product I have seen that asks the purchaser to not do the effects therein. Great effects though.
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I had to rewind, take notes and do a little math to figure out The Worker of the Week. It was a very close race.

Red Mirror... Craig's 85% + Dave's 8% divided by 2 = 46.5%

Angelux... Craig's 50% + Dave's 40% divided by 2 = 45%

So, Red Mirror wins Worker of the week in a photo finish by a mere 1.5% but wait... there is a steward's inquiry...

After a judges review, (since 'You Can't do it') Red mirror has been disqualified
and placed second because by definition, The Worker of the Week can not be awarded to a product that you're not allowed to do.

It was a Great show as always guys...
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The show is awesome - essential viewing - but I have some (hopefully constructive) criticism and a suggestion to offer.

I agree that the 'No Performance' notice on Red Mirror is surprising. That said, I think it's absolutely fine for a DVD to be sold without performance rights, as long as it's clear what you're getting. And I think that selling a DVD simply for inspiration is also fine - and I agree with Craig's point that moves alone can be inspiring. Examples would be Ponta's "sick" - one of, if not the biggest DVD last year - is mainly about the moves, and it's absolutely inspiring. Eric Jones' moves in several routines on "An Extension of Me" are inspiring to a lot of people - Mark Mason specifically references a specific move from Eric as an inspiration on his Triception DVD. I'm sure a load of derivatives of other moves in Oxyclean will emerge over time. Eric cites the moves he was in turn inspired by in his credits, and it's generally just one move or one idea from another routine - GODHAND being a good example, also El Cambio Nada. Helder Guimaraes is indisputably awesome, as is the material. I felt the rating was unfair.

You marked down Angelux for the practicality aspect, which again I only partially agree with. In some situations it would be the perfect method. I think this is another example of what I'm trying to get at - you're grading the products in terms of how they would be received by a working pro with minimal time who wants complete routines, preferably with patter and presentation, that can be performed many times without complicated reset and with maximum practicality. Now, don't get me wrong - that's a huge service to the community, and cuts through a whole load of the rubbish that's inflicted on unsuspecting punters... but I think you're running the risk of throwing away great effects in the drive for practicality. Even in close-up corporate entertainment, there's room for that one-off special that you could do for the managing director - or even better, the entertainment secretary. Dave keeps mentioning TV spots and promo videos - I think it's more important than that - these are effects that might win work if performed right, for the right people. Surely there's no more practical consideration than that?

So my suggestion is to maybe mention the power of the effect, on its own, free from considerations of practicality, cost, effort, skill, angles and everything else - just the power of the effect. We know the ratings are your ratings, for your circumstances - and since you're both really clear about what those performing situations are, that's great. I just think you're being a bit unfair to the more high-impact, low practicality effects.
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To Volto, I honestly think that although the rating numbers are obviously somewhat arbitrary you can tell from their discourse what the think of the effect in multiple terms - visual, practical, etc. I have agreed with Dave at least more often then not.
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Xcath: Don't get me wrong, the show is awesome and the guys are great... it's just a suggestion of a way I think the show could be improved. Kind of "if you could only do one trick, and impact was the only issue, which would it be?" You're right in that they normally do go into this in the discussion; Dave especially makes a point of mentioning the high impact aspect. I guess the root of my gripe is the rating system. A low rating might mean it was a stunning effect, but thread-based. Or requires a bulky gimmick. Or, in the case of the glass tray thing, a bomb shelter. Anyhow, that was my suggestion to improve the show. Make the ratings more impact-driven.
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Fair enough
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On 2011-03-10 12:07, volto wrote:
A low rating might mean it was a stunning effect, but thread-based. Or requires a bulky gimmick. Or, in the case of the glass tray thing, a bomb shelter.


Now that really cracked me up! Smile ( of course I’m referring to the tray that breaks glass)

Yes, I would tend to agree with you to some extent. However, for those who have watched Craig and David for any length of time one begins to easily see what their individual criteria is for various effects, be it right or wrong, and then it all depending on each individual to sift out what actually may be right or wrong for one’s self. I remember some weeks ago where David thought a certain trick should be the worker of the week whereas I thought it was terrible and wish I had never purchased it! But, then again, that’s just my personal feeling and it’s up to each individual to separate the chaff from the wheat after watching the World Magic Review. Of course there are those times when Craig and David give a resounding two thumbs down on a trick that is obviously a real “stinker”, and sometimes, laughably so! Smile
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On 2011-03-09 12:34, BenCardall wrote:
Hey chaps!

loving wpr! do you guys review e-books aswell?


Good question, though it has nothing to do with the topic. Since so much is being released in PDF format, some of it good, it's almost a requirement to review some of the releases in this category.

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There are some effects that would be great in many situations, but wouldn't meet the needs of a working professional doing restaurant / cocktail party / trade show work. Those effects are likely to receive a poor review on the WPR based upon Craig & Dave's review criteria. For those, it might be helpful to have a separate rating such as hobbyist v. working pro. This wouldn't be necessary for all effects or DVDs, as for most there wouldn't be such a great disparity. But it would assist hobbyists running through past archives and looking at the scores alone to determine tricks they would like.
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