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I just wanted to know everyone's opinion on the youngsters we have joining the force. Do you have any tips for us? Mabye somthing you wish you were told earlier on?

I hope this isn't TOO general...
I couldn't find a thread like this, so I am very intrigued to see the responses. Also, I wasn't sure if this is in the right place. So...

-Teed
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Here's a few things I wish I knew earlier and some I wish I knew better now:
Simple is usually better.
Trace the new back to its origin; you'll probably find it's not that new.
A sleight is the smaller part of an effect.
An effect is a smaller part of a performance.
Entertainment is the goal.
Subtleties work.
Unmotivated action creates doubt.
People love winners but they pull for underdogs, give them reason to pull for you. Strive for excellence but don't take yourself too seriously.
Take the spectator's mind to the place you both want it to go. Lead him to see what he should see; what he really wants to see. But remember, his mind is all that really needs to see it.
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Excellent advice, Wes! I wish I had heard those things 35+ years ago!
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On 2011-03-12 00:21, worldofwondermagic wrote:
Excellent advice, Wes! I wish I had heard those things 35+ years ago!

It's never too late unless you quit.
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Join your local magic club. I learned more in one year with the club than I did for the past 10 years on my own.

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On 2011-03-12 20:50, jimhlou wrote:
Join your local magic club. I learned more in one year with the club than I did for the past 10 years on my own.

Jim

Hmm...
My friend said that he did not learn anything at the club and I probably wouldn't benefit from it.
Maybe it's because he was there for so long. (He was also president of the local)
Any insight?

-Teed
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Brush your teeth twice a day.
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Clubs and magicians are not all a like. If you have nothing to contribute, don't expect much. Never for get that enthusiasm is a major asset.

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Wes did a great job of summing it all up. Gaddy is no chum either, nobody wants you doing magic for them with funky breath! When I was young, I spent a lot of time and money buying gaffs. Sure, they were useful and visual, but as I began to get older I had found myself wishing I had learned more slights. Practice is also very important, and just as Wes said, remember you didn't invent the wheel. Even though you may be the one of the few that do magic at your school, or maybe the only one as I was. You'll encounter many hecklers and lots and lots of attention. Don't insult people, It will get you nowhere. It might even get you enemies, just be nice to everyone and keep it jovial!
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All I am going to say is,
- Don’t dress like a cross between Chris Angle and David Blaine.
- Every effect by Sanky is the best ever effect, a real worker. But not necessary for you.
- If your at school or college try and get involved in a form of dance and drama acting.

The reason it works for Angle and Blaine is because it works for them. They are both good magicians. Sanky produce great stuff but you don’t want to many gaffed things. And Varity is the spice of life. Doing a trick is a very small part of being a magician. Being a entertainer is a large part of being a magician.

That’s all I have to say at the moment as its time for this 36 year old afternoon nap. So don’t go clunking those linking rings to loud you hear me.
Enjoy your magic,

and let others enjoy it as well!
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Chris Angle...

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There are a few good nuggets here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUwY-hb8I_I
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On 2011-03-13 23:54, gaddy wrote:
Chris Angle...

:goof:


Yeah his magic is Angel proof. I love Dyslexia don you.
Enjoy your magic,

and let others enjoy it as well!
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I second @Yellowcustard's advice for taking some drama or dance classes. It will improve your performance and gracefulness.

As @gamechy41 said, keep at it. Don't give it up. Once you get hooked on magic, you'll keep coming back. You'll be much better if you don't drop in and out.

Magic clubs, and even forums such as these, are important. Magicians need support from other magicians. And you can learn better from being around and watching than from all the books in the world. If nothing else, see if there are any conventions anywhere near you that you can attend.

And remember some people will love magic and some will just be frustrated. They are jealous. Don't pay them any attention. Focus on the people who enjoy it.

If you like the effect, you will do it well and others will, too. Don't get caught up in the coolest, latest thing. And don't get caught up, as some do, with trying to do magic for other magicians. It's the lay people who you will entertain, and they haven't seen many of the tricks that are considered "standard," or you will put a new spin on them that make them seem new. Look around you and see how many people are killing with the cups and balls -- one of the oldest effects anywhere. Still pretty sweet.

And have fun.
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On 2011-03-14 00:33, rsylvester wrote:
And remember some people will love magic and some will just be frustrated. They are jealous. Don't pay them any attention. Focus on the people who enjoy it.


People not liking what we do seems to bother magicians more than other entertainers.
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Teed -

SAM and IBM have thousands of members. There must be some reason these people get together on a monthly basis. Your local club may be okay or great, but you won't know if you don't check it out a few times. Some meetings will be better than others. The cost to attend a few meetings is typically free - usually you can go to a few meetings without joining, and even joining is inexpensive - relative to buying the latest DVD or gaff.

You will find experienced magicians there that are happy to help you on your journey and, if you are lucky, a great magic teacher.

Good luck,

Hudson
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Magic is an ~entertainment~ art, not a puzzle art!
Entertainment means taking people on a ride they enjoy.
"I fooled you!" creates antagonism and diminishes the entertainment value.
Wrap your foolers in an entertaining package and you can't lose!
Concentrate on making people feel small and fooled, and you won't win.

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Great thread enjoying reading all of the posts. Really got me thinking about the way I perform my magic.
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Can you tell a joke?
Remember the story?
Get the punch line in the right spot?
Keep a steady rhythm?
Hold people's attention?
If so you will probably make a good Magician, not comedy Magician necessarily, just Magician in general. If not you might wanna work on it till you can tell a joke first.
You know why don't act naive.
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Buy decent props right off, it saves replacing them when you "progress".
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