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I was wondering, would you prefer to live in a country where there were, say, 10,000 murders a year, and 10% got away with it, or a country (with the same size population) where only 1,000, but 50% got away with it?
Assuming there was a connection between the mechanism leading to less murders but a higher percentage likelihood in getting away with it.
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Depends on how much of one's intent to explore that form of self expression involves the death of others I guess.

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Prefer?

I would prefer to live in a country where there are no murders at all.

Not a choice? Well then...

In lieu of that choice of preference, I'll just stay where I am now and do my little bit to prevent crime.
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Well... am I the murderer getting away with it?
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The less brutal society for me mate.
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? brutal means force/pain in excess of requirements.
Settle for a more wealthy/peaceful place for its citizens type of society?
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I think murder rate per capita is a good yardstick for societal brutality tbh.
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By that you mean cost per socially sanctioned killing? The cheaper the better then?
How about capital punishment - use/efficacy/cruel and unusual punishment?

IMHO there are underlying economic issues that make simple statistical measures of 'all else being equal' less than helpful.
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Where did you get 'cost' from? You've lost me.

I'd rather live in the society with the lower per capita murder rate and campaign for a more efficient law enforcement/judicial murder clearup rate than in the society with the x10 murder rate and the more efficient clearup.
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I think the more chance there is of getting away with muder the more muders there will be. Anyway I think its better that there are only 1000 than 10000 regardless of what the chances of the muderer is of getting away with it, whatever that means. I mean I have known murderers be convicted and get away with it because they did not get a sentence that fitted the crime IMHO. Not all muders are equal.
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What if you lived in a society with a high percentage murder rate, but all the murders are done in isolated, prescribed neighborhoods, not yours?
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..and what if those murderers were zombie monkeys with flaming stares?
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On 2011-03-20 16:59, Whit Haydn wrote:
What if you lived in a society with a high percentage murder rate, but all the murders are done in isolated, prescribed neighborhoods, not yours?


Is there an Indian food place that delivers to my neighborhood?
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A women came into my restaurant and asked if it was ok to put a sign up there for her missing cat.
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On 2011-03-20 17:01, HerbLarry wrote:
..and what if those murderers were zombie monkeys with flaming stares?


That is a scary thought! Smile Smile
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On 2011-03-20 17:01, HerbLarry wrote:
..and what if those murderers were zombie monkeys with flaming stares?


That is a scary thought! Smile Smile


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I liked the 80's gang members, with their twisted up bandanas, parachute pants, and thin sunglasses.
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I'm very glad to live in a country where murder is occasional enough to be noteworthy and most are solved.

I would assume that the knowledge that most murderers were caught and punished would dissuade some people from doing it.

And while I haven't looked up anything, from what I read in the papers and see on the news, most murders here do not happen in the course of another crime committed by a stranger, but by a person who has a close relationship with the victim.

And now for a handy household hint - I'll be the Martha Stewart of domestic crime prevention. If you have a potentially crazy or emotionally turbulent loved one, make sure the kitchen knives all have rounded points.

I once read a study about people stabbed during the course of domestic arguments and most people stabbed with a rounded knife, by a loved one in a rage, survive, unlike those stabbed by a knife with a sharp point.
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Save a life; marry a vegan!

(We don't need steak knives)
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Maybe not, but those paring knives can be wicked sharp.
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