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pyromagician
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Hello again,
I have been searching for plans for a smoke chamber appearance. If someone can help me out you can pm me or contact me via e-mail (cardtricks@msn.com)

Make sure you say something like "Smoke Chamber" in the subject box, or aim and my screen name is jesusyme.
Thanks for your help.
Gary
P.S. this is what part of the alphabet would look like if "Q" and "R" were eleminated
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Hmm...been thinking about this one and keep coming back to a Science World exhibit I saw once demonstrating the effects of laminar flow.

Two airfoil like "wings were mounted vertically 180 dgrees apart from each other. They were clear acrylic. A pressurized stream of air was passed through jets along the inside of the leading edge of the foil and created a laminar flow that actually created a vortex like a tornado between the two foils.

Smoke was introduced from the center-point on the floor between the two foils and looked as it was swept into the vortex very much like a smoke Tornado.

Use Black Art behind the foils with rollerblinds and smokepots and adapt the "Arch" illusion for an appearance.

Smoke is only good if you can control it.
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Are you referring to a box (glass, acrylic, etc.) that fills up with smoke, followed by the appearance of you or your assistant, or to something else?

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Amos, Yes I am referring to that appearance.
Sorry I didn't make it very clear about what I was wanting.
Thanks
Gary
P.S. this is what part of the alphabet would look like if "Q" and "R" were eleminated
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There are several effects similar to this in the Rand Woodbury Illusionworks books. They use a curtain in one way or another, but I don't see why smoke couldn't perform the same function.

You might build (or have built) a double-pane glass or Plexi enclosure. The space between the panes could be filled with smoke, the "producee" step in from the "appropriate place", and the smoke be vented to reveal the magician or assistant. If the gap between the panes is the correct depth, no one should be able to tell that the smoke is not filling the entire chamber. It will also be easier to control than if it were in the main chamber.

Hope this helps,

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Smile We built it as a steps chamber this year with Plexi glass (no double-pane). So I start the smoke machine myself. It´s absolutely timing and contolling in the show.

Sorry - my bad english. I hope you understand what I mean.

Sascha

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Hi Gary

I believe that Creative Illusions in Las Vegas build a great Smoke Chamber although I doubt that they would be very happy if anyone built an exact copy of their one. However, there are plans for a Smoke Chamber in the book The Magic and Illusions of Lee Grabel...the trick is called Creating A Woman By Chemistry. It is a great book and would recommend it to any stage performer.

Hope this helps!!

Scott Smile
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As posted above, there is really no need to put it into a double pane setup. You can just fill the cabinet with a smoke/fog machine.

I think it would be hard to make it look right where you are not really 'in' the smoke. Not impossible, but I'm betting its fairly tough.
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Copperfield's smoke chamber he did in the China special was like a chamber within a chamber...like the double pane idea. The space between the two was filled with smoke and had nice venting. I really don't like the look of the doube pane myself, and it is hard to get the smoke to cooperate if you're doing it just a standard singel pane. You really need the right fans and vents to pull it off in my opinion. I've seen lots of them where its hard to even see the magician coming out of the chamber because of all the smoke. You can't even see that he came out of the chamber, its like he's coming out of a steam room and it doesn't look very deceptive or magical. -just in my opinion

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I would highly recommend the double wall method. If the chamber is built right then the second wall will be invisible.

If you use the single wall method make sure you are able to hold your breath long enough to wait for the smoke to clear because you want to appear standing in it not appear trying to get out and get fresh air.

Too often you see the magician appear coughing inside the smoke chamber. No matter which method you use it is best to generate the smoke with several smaller smoke machines, rather than one big unit.

It will allow you to get the smoke generated more evenly, all arround. To clear the smoke quickly you will need strong fans at the right places and also a way to open the top (especially if you are using the double wall method where the smoke can not escape thru the opened side door.

Also make sure that your base / step connection is airproof, it looks kind of silly when the smoke comes out thru the base.
It really is a very misterious entrance but even if you built it yourself it will not come cheap.
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Hey Pyro,

I am currently using a smoke chamber built by Creative Illusions many years ago. Mine is a double wall. The best thing about using a double wall version is that the smoke fills the chamber faster. Only about 1/4th of the exterior chamber needs to fill. The interior chamber is perched on a zimmerman style base. The exterior shell comes all the way down to the base. The entire illusion comes down out of the fly loft, I then fly the exterior shell in and out. When the exterior shell flys out, it immediately disperses the smoke away from the illusion and fogs out the stage for the next effect. You wouldn't necessarily need to fly the entire illusion in and out, just the exterior shell. If you have the use of a fly loft, this is a great way to go.

Hope this helps,

Ray
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I use the same Lightning Chamber by Creative Illusions...Ray, this is off subject, but I had a few questions about the Lightning Chamber..Because since they're no longer in business I need to get replacement parts for the base/tube itself.

Thanks!

Andrew
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