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I just purchased SeoMagic's Perfect Milk Pitcher. This is an acrylic pitcher 3.5" diameter X 6" tall. It has a hard plastic (acrylic) insert that drops into the main pitcher.

It only uses 2 oz of liquid, so you have to use a very opaque liquid like milk. Once the insert is in, there is only a few millimeters between the walls. The pouring action is perfect, the liquid drops exactly as it would if you were actually pouring the milk. One minor (?) "situation" - the insert rides up on the liquid - there's nothing to hold it in. The instructions recommend "transparent tape" (box tape) to hold it in. It would have been nice to have some type of locking system to hold the two pieces together.

The handle may be a weak link - we'll see how well it holds up. Doesn't look like it would take much to snap it off.

The thing I really like about this prop is that it's cleanable - the insert pops out and everything can be washed. This should keep it looking like new for a long time. My old glass pitcher has a cloudy liner, an no way to clean it.

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An even better one was offered in September 2009 (try the search function for my posts about that time) --the Walter "Zaney" Blaney Royal Milk Pitcher manufactured and distributed by myself and Bill Wells. A sturdy crystal clear lucite pitcher nearly 10" tall, it is easy to fill, easy to clean and dishwasher safe. Able to hold 1 1/2" quarts it takes only 7 ounces to fill and allows the visible vanish of more than a quart as the 8" column of milk diminishes to a mere 2". The unique design allows for either no spill or a controllable spill at the performer's discretion. When it was first introduced in 1983 John Braun, writing in The Linking Ring magazine, described it as "the finest looking vanishing milk pitcher I have ever seen."

Long off the market, a small number of leftover pitchers from the last run in 1984 are still available. Cost: $75 each, including shipping in the US, via PayPal to gr8magik@aol.com.

Once these are gone there will be no more as the commercial "Thermo-Serve" pitchers from which they are made were discontinued years ago.

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Dick,
I sent you a PM - but for as a "public" question - can you "fake" pour as well as "really" pour (as in a drinking glass)?

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The Owen Magic Milk Pitcher is the one I used for many years. It's great for multiple shows as all you do is twist to remove the insert, pour the milk back into the main pitcher, and replace the insert. Two seconds and your ready to go for another show! It's very large and made of clear heavy duty plexiglass that's very hard to break even if dropped from a short distance. They are not cheap I think I paid around $195 but worth every if you use it as much as I did.

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For anyone interested , Seo Magic informs me that this item , the Perfect Milk Pitcher, will be back in stock soon when they receive their next shipment from Japan (within about 2 weeks or less from today , as of June 18, 2020).

As of today (June 18, 2020) it's still listed on Seo's website as out-of-stock , but check back to see when it's available.



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On Mar 22, 2011, jimhlou wrote:
I just purchased SeoMagic's Perfect Milk Pitcher. This is an acrylic pitcher 3.5" diameter X 6" tall. It has a hard plastic (acrylic) insert that drops into the main pitcher.

It only uses 2 oz of liquid, so you have to use a very opaque liquid like milk. Once the insert is in, there is only a few millimeters between the walls. The pouring action is perfect, the liquid drops exactly as it would if you were actually pouring the milk. One minor (?) "situation" - the insert rides up on the liquid - there's nothing to hold it in. The instructions recommend "transparent tape" (box tape) to hold it in. It would have been nice to have some type of locking system to hold the two pieces together.

The handle may be a weak link - we'll see how well it holds up. Doesn't look like it would take much to snap it off.

The thing I really like about this prop is that it's cleanable - the insert pops out and everything can be washed. This should keep it looking like new for a long time. My old glass pitcher has a cloudy liner, an no way to clean it.

Jim


Jim, if you're reading this , how has it held up over the years ? Did the handle prove to be a weak link or is it still in good shape ?

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On Mar 22, 2011, Dick Christian wrote:
... the Walter "Zaney" Blaney Royal Milk Pitcher manufactured and distributed by myself and Bill Wells. A sturdy crystal clear lucite pitcher nearly 10" tall, it is easy to fill, easy to clean and dishwasher safe. Able to hold 1 1/2" quarts it takes only 7 ounces to fill and allows the visible vanish of more than a quart as the 8" column of milk diminishes to a mere 2".

Once these are gone there will be no more as the commercial "Thermo-Serve" pitchers from which they are made were discontinued years ago.


I'm surprised you didn't do a new run of these with a similar type of acrylic or lucite pitcher with a lid. There are other pitchers which seem like they would be suitable. (such as this: https://www.webstaurantstore.com/cambro-......4CW.html ) I would imagine the tricky part is sourcing the gimmick that has the correct diameter.


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On Apr 29, 2011, puckmagic wrote:
The Owen Magic Milk Pitcher is the one I used for many years. It's great for multiple shows as all you do is twist to remove the insert, pour the milk back into the main pitcher, and replace the insert.

Puck



The Perfect Milk Pitcher that Seo is selling seems similar , in terms of easy removal of the insert. Easy to clean and reset.
However, it's not as tall as the Owen pitcher, so perhaps not as visible from stage distance, if that's a concern.
https://www.seomagic-usa.com/product_inf......s_id/584

-Appears to be a totally ordinary pitcher, nothing suspicious. It is 100% transparent.
-New system allows easy preparation. (After performance, all parts can be washed.)
-Made of acrylic to last forever.



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I have a used original Walter Blaney Royal Milk Pitcher in very good condition. It hold 1.5 litres and looks and works beautifully. I would be willing to sell for the right price.

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I confuse what's the different with other milk pitcher exist in the market ? Why they call it as " PERFECT MILK PITCHER " ?
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I confuse what's the different with other milk pitcher exist in the market ? Why they call it "PERFECT MILK PITCHER" ?


I imagine they call it that because of the reasons listed on their website https://www.seomagic-usa.com/product_inf......s_id/584 :

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FEATURES-
1) Appears to be a totally ordinary pitcher, nothing suspicious. It is 100% transparent.
2) No suspicious movements required. Just pour naturally.
3) New system allows easy preparation. (After performance, all parts can be washed.)
4) Made of acrylic to last forever.
5) You can actually pour out some milk to drink.
6) Illusion of disappearing milk perfectly matches speed (angle) of pouring.
7) Not much milk is required. Keeps pitcher light and easy to handle.
8) Real, drinkable liquids can be used.



I shall soon find out as I have just ordered one. It was out of stock for a few years , but Seo Magic now has a small number of these pitchers back in stock. (as of this writing , July 4, 2020. )

I'll post a review here if I have anything to add to what JimHLou already posted in his review above.

It's subjective as to what makes something "Perfect". To me the one thing that perhaps keeps it from being "perfect" is that this pitcher is only 6" inches high , a bit on the small side. I would have preferred a larger pitcher , 8" - 10" high , for better visibility from greater distances. On the other hand , I'm purchasing this pitcher for a specific routine I'm planning , which involves vanishing the balance of the milk left in the pitcher by another method (actually pouring out all of the remaining milk into another receptacle) and for that I need there to be the least amount of liquid possible. In Jim's review he mentions that the "Perfect Pitcher" from Seo Magic only has 2 oz. of liquid left over after the pour. The other two pitchers I own -- Bazar de Magia's "Milk Pitcher Pro" and Mike O'Dowd's "Super Leprechaun Pitcher" -- are larger and have a lot more liquid remaining in the pitcher after the pour.
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I now have the DPG "Perfect Milk Pitcher" (DP Group Ltd.), purchased from Seo Magic. I would first refer you to Jimhlou's review above , with one correction to Jim's review: he states that the pitcher is "6" tall , 3.5" diameter". It is actually 6 1/4" tall , 4 1/2" diameter at the top opening. (it tapers from 4 1/2" diameter at the top to 3 1/8" diameter at the bottom).

The pitcher came very well packed in two boxes: an inner storage box and a slightly larger outside packing box (and in fact, the way Seo Magic shipped it to me it had another shipping box enclosing the two inner boxes , with bubble wrap padding the inner boxes , so it was shipped to me with three layers of packaging. I appreciated that extra care in packing the item. Thank you , Seo Magic!)

It comes with two pages of clearly written , well-illustrated instructions. (one page of instructions on the operation and care of the pitcher, one page with three suggested presentations)

The certain something is invisible from a short distance. It is easy to clean and reset. The acrylic pitcher and the certain something are custom injection molded.
This is a high quality product. I would recommend it .

(However, I will mention that I share Jimhlou's concern that the handle feels a bit delicate , like it could be snapped off too easily. (not necessarily during normal use , but when traveling , for example if a heavier item in another box was to be suddenly crushed hard against the cardboard box containing the pitcher or if something heavy were dropped on it , it could crack. I'm actually going get a hard shell box to store it and carry it in to protect it. Frankly, this is a minor concern, but I thought I would mention it because Jimhlou brought it up in the original review.)

As Jimhlou mentioned in his review , after you have finished the main pouring action there is very little liquid left over in the pitcher. This is just what I needed for a new routine I'm working on which involves pouring out the left over liquid into a smaller container and then making that liquid vanish , too. With my larger pitcher(s) there was too much liquid left over in the pitcher to do this.

That brings up the only thing that I might say someone could consider less than perfect about the "Perfect Milk Pitcher" , which is regarding the size of the pitcher: I think on a large stage it may tend to get lost, not be visible enough from a great distance. (from the back of the house) On the other hand, how many of us perform in large theaters that often ? For a more intimate venue (a small theater or a typical living room/"parlor" setting) it will be fine. As I said, for my current purposes the very small amount of liquid left over after the main pour is just what I needed, so in this case it is "perfect". However, I would suggest to DP Group Ltd. that they consider making this excellent prop available in a larger size , perhaps 9 - 12 inches tall , 5 - 6 inches in diameter for use on a larger stage, so the pitcher is more visible from a greater distance. For most milk pitcher routines where the amount of liquid left over in the pitcher after the main pour is not a critical factor , the greater visibility of a taller column of milk going down to only a couple of inches of milk left over after the pour is a better visual whether it is performed in an intimate "parlor" show or a large theater. That said , it didn't stop generations of magicians from using the smallish, square-shaped pitcher , the 36 oz. Federal Glass Co. "Star" pitcher (5 1/4" high , 4 1/4" wide) ,the most popular pitcher size sold by Enardoe , EZ Magic, SS Adams, Abbott's , etc.

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On Mar 22, 2011, Dick Christian wrote:
An even better one was offered in September 2009 (try the search function for my posts about that time) --the Walter "Zaney" Blaney Royal Milk Pitcher manufactured and distributed by myself and Bill Wells. A sturdy crystal clear lucite pitcher nearly 10" tall, it is easy to fill, easy to clean and dishwasher safe. Able to hold 1 1/2" quarts it takes only 7 ounces to fill and allows the visible vanish of more than a quart as the 8" column of milk diminishes to a mere 2". The unique design allows for either no spill or a controllable spill at the performer's discretion. When it was first introduced in 1983 John Braun, writing in The Linking Ring magazine, described it as "the finest looking vanishing milk pitcher I have ever seen."



This seems like the pitcher to get if it shows up on eBay or on one of the used magic sale pages.

Not sure why you stopped making it (limited market?), because it seems like there are still many different acrylic pitchers that could be adapted to make a similar type of pitcher to the Royal Milk Pitcher. D. Robbins made the "Crystal Cut Milk Pitcher" for 30 years using the Regaline #106 Pitcher, which has now gone out of production , but there are still some of those D. Robbins Crystal Milk Pitcher's on dealer's shelves.

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That really is what I want to see in a milk pitcher or milk glass ... the liquid level appears to diminish 3/4's , so only 1/4 of the liquid is left in the pitcher after the pour. Many of the milk pitchers on the market only diminish by about 2/3rds , leaving 1/3rd (or slightly more ) of the liquid in the pitcher at the conclusion.

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I like having some milk leftover so I cn pour it into a glass and drink it.
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I like having some milk leftover so I can pour it into a glass and drink it.


I agree. Pouring out the balance of the liquid after the main pour sells the idea that it's just an ordinary pitcher.

But I think for the main pour the impression the audience needs to be left with is that the magician poured "most" of the liquid into the cone or into a hat , or what have you. So a pitcher that is designed to have a very noticeable drop in the amount of liquid is desirable. Then the bit of liquid that is left over can be poured into a glass , so the last image the audience is left with is of an empty pitcher. In theory , the thing they should remember later is "the magician poured an entire pitcher of milk into a cone and made it disappear".

What had attracted me to the "DPG Perfect Milk Pitcher" from SEO Magic is that so little liquid is left over at the end (only about 2 oz), so in the routine I was working on I would pour most of the milk into another container (not a cone in this case, but it could be) using the usual procedure for apparently pouring milk from the pitcher and then seem to decide at the last minute "Oh, well, let's go ahead and pour it ALL in." and then openly pour the remaining milk into the container (where it goes into a secret compartment that has sl _ sh p _ _ der in it to take care of that little bit of extra liquid) then the container is flipped open to show the milk has vanished.

I also quite liked DC's handling of a milk vanish in one of his early television specials, where he apparently pours an entire pitcher of milk into a paper folder , then rips the folder open to show the milk has vanished. This used a couple of different principles. The liquid vanishes a la the "In the News" method , but the pitcher is like a "Multum In Parvo" pitcher.

See 8:05 - to - 8:30 here: https://youtu.be/7Pm5EUDHKBs?t=485



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Jim posted that there is one minor situation, the insert rides up on the liquid and there's nothing to hold it in. For those of you who have this, is he saying the insert could fall out as you pretend to pour out the milk. I was thinking of getting this because its smaller than the Crystal Cut Pitcher I have.

Jim's last post was last February so I'm not sure how soon he will answer, that's why I was hoping one of you who have this, could answer this.

And did anybody's handle break?
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I don't think Jim is around here very much anymore, so I'll answer . I have the DPG Perfect Milk Pitcher, distributed in the U.S.A. by Seo Magic. The insert riding up is not a big problem. It won't fall out. As per the directions, two small pieces of clear scotch tape to secure it is all you need. (I don't think most of us really appreciate what a marvelous substance scotch tape is ... it's so common , we don't appreciate it for what it is and we may tend to grumble a bit if we have to do something as simple as applying two small pieces of tape as preparation to perform a trick. But imagine if scotch tape did not exist and someone suddenly invented it ? Magicians (and others) would go nuts over this marvelous new substance !)

The handle seems a little delicate, but I'm actually not too worried about it. So far , so good . (although admittedly, I haven't been using it day in and day out for shows.) I think if it did snap off a little bit of clear-drying epoxy would put it right . I would say on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being least worrisome and 10 being most worrisome , my level of worry about the handle breaking is 1.5. It's about the same level of worry I have of using a glass milk pitcher and possibly dropping it. It could happen, but with a normal amount of caution , probably not.


As I mentioned in my post above , the only thing that keeps this from being truly "perfect" for me is the size. I think it's a bit on the small side. I would have preferred a larger size.


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Bill Hegbli pointed out to me that Seo Magic has now re-released their Milk Pitcher with an updated design . This one looks more substantial (heavier) than the previous tapered version. It has all the same features as the previous version. But it costs less than the previous version ! (was $52.00 , the new version is $38.00)

https://www.seomagic-usa.com/product_inf......_id/2500

• Appears to be a milk pitcher, nothing suspicious. It is 100% transparent.
• No suspicious movements required. Just pour naturally.
• New system allows easy preparation. (After performance, all parts can be washed.)
• Made of acrylic to last forever.
• You can actually pour out some milk to drink.
• Illusion of disappearing milk perfectly matches speed (angle) of pouring.
• Not much milk is required. Keeps pitcher light and easy to handle.
• Real, drinkable liquids can be used.


https://youtu.be/o3W_-Ge8lZk



It looks well-designed to me because the apparent amount of milk poured out makes it look as if there is very little milk remaining in the pitcher after the pour. With some milk pitchers the apparent amount of milk poured out looks like about 2/3rds of the milk has been poured out (leaving 1/3rd remaining) or in some cases only about 1/2 the milk seems to have been poured out. With this Seo Magic pitcher (and their previous version) it appears at the end as if a bit more than 3/4ths of the liquid has been poured out. That may seem like a minor detail, but to me it makes a difference in how convincing the illusion is.

I realize that some people consider this classic utility prop passé ("who serves milk in pitchers anymore?" ). What's interesting about the design of this Seo prop is it looks like a measuring cup. If you look closely at the photo on Seo's website it even appears as if it's inscribed with markings like a measuring cup although they are not prominent. But the proportions being like a measuring cup allows this prop to pass the test of looking like "a common, everyday item", if that matters to you.

The prop looking like a measuring cup suggests applications to classic effects like "Baking a Cake In ___________" if not a hat --- "who wears hats anymore?" --- other things like a paper bag can be used for apparently pouring in messy ingredients -- milk, eggs, flour, salt -- and then producing a baked cake from the receptacle. Effects with liquids or other messy items are extra effort to set up and travel with , so not everyone will be doing it. However, if you're currently doing shows from home via Zoom , what does it matter ? Clean-up is easy in your own kitchen after the show. You lose a lot of the built-in comedy effect of borrowing a hat from the audience and stirring in the messy ingredients , apparently ruining the spectator's hat, but I think the effect still works if you do it with your own hat or a paper bag ...


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Continued from my post above. For comparison -

New SEO pitcher -
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Measuring cup -
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