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LoïcJ.
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Very Good Job !
Let's go on the Wire, Joey ! Smile
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On 2011-04-12 17:05, The Dowser wrote:
If the cut card is sitting in front of you there is no reason to let go with both hands...very few casino dealers stop the process to free the deck of their hands.

Actually the correct procedure is to release the deck prior to the final cut. This procedure was instituted to show the players and the floor that no “break” is being held. However, in actual practice, as The Dowser notes above, many dealers don’t release with both hands and go right into the cut, or in some cases the cut follows so quickly after the final riffle the momentary release is so slight it may not be noticeable.

I have been in some big games where a couple of times a player complained to the floor that the deck was not being released prior to the cut and the situation was immediately rectified.

I mean no disrespect to dealers with the following statements, as they are usually honest hard working people just making a living. However, keep in mind that most dealers, regardless of the game they are dealing, are “square johns” and don’t have the slightest idea of how to do anything dishonest that would “fly” over a period of time. In the gambling business they are sometimes referred to as “clerks” and the repetitiveness of their dealing is somewhat akin to working on an assembly line – the same repetitive movements over and over again. Dealing some games is almost completely mind numbing, others (like a “jam-up” craps game with a lot of action) can be challenging until the game slows down.

However, most dealers fall into a routine to make dealing easy on themselves so sometimes they take a little shortcut here and there. Procedures are not always enforced unless player complaints require enforcement. It is just not considered that important to the floor personnel as they want a lot of hands dealt, without problems, so that the rake keeps coming in.

Since the house’s money is not at stake, it is the player’s responsibility to protect himself. The house only steps in if it perceives something will affect the smooth functioning of the game.
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First, thanks Joey for letting everyone see your talent-- I enjoy watching all the videos you have posted. About this last video--and I may be missing the point entirely-- but would this manipulation, that is bringing a slug from the bottom to the top, ever be useful in any form of poker? Or would this only be used while playing other games, which have dealing that would make having a top stock more useful.
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Hey vendzz
"unfortunately" Im not a card cheat, so I can't tell you anything about the real uses (if there are any) of this slug transfer.
Maybe someone that is more familiar with actual cheating techniques can tell you more Smile
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Just an example, if you want to stack card by using a riffle stack, you can transfer the card from the bottom to the top one by one and add the number of card you want to the top. If you riffle stack with this technique, it will be no hesitation to the drop.

An other example, if you are permanent dealer, you keep a memorized slug to the bottom of the deck (the easiest place to keep card) that you have cull from a previous hand, you play some hand and always keep the slug to the bottom by false shuffling/cutting, and then, you bring the slug to the top and then, you can deal known hole card.
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Its not a bad advantage in poker or any game to know what the top few cards are as a matter of fact. All you need to know to win at gambling is more than everybody.
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On 2012-02-16 13:40, joeyfx wrote:
"unfortunately" Im not a card cheat, so I can't tell you anything about the real uses (if there are any) of this slug transfer.


I can’t believe this. A skillful card manipulator of gambling type moves who is honest enough to admit that he does not know how to get the money or the best way to apply his move(s) in a game.

Joeyfx, I take my hat off to you and you have my undying respect for saying that. Many with your ability would stick their chest out and pretend or imply they were a top card hustler, or at least able to get the money if they really wanted to.

Two thumbs up, joeyfx.
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@Cagliostro,

Whether the guy is Skillful or not, it's not very difficult to spot braggers. 2-3 questions about a real card game and you see them disappear...
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On 2012-02-16 16:11, Cagliostro wrote:
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On 2012-02-16 13:40, joeyfx wrote:
"unfortunately" Im not a card cheat, so I can't tell you anything about the real uses (if there are any) of this slug transfer.


I can’t believe this. A skillful card manipulator of gambling type moves who is honest enough to admit that he does not know how to get the money or the best way to apply his move(s) in a game.

Joeyfx, I take my hat off to you and you have my undying respect for saying that. Many with your ability would stick their chest out and pretend or imply they were a top card hustler, or at least able to get the money if they really wanted to.

Two thumbs up, joeyfx.


I shot my arrow into the air....
so that it may land... I know not where....
towards a forum of braggarts it sailed...
the one who speaks first is the one who got nailed.
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Thanks to cartouche7 and tommy for the insight.

@Cagliostro
The fact that I know very little about actual play, was one of the first things I learned here.
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New Video:
Split-Stacking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7qmpWM5w74

I have to admit though, that I don't hit the last one (holding back 10 cards and splitting into 5/5) consistently yet Smile
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Very well done joey.

Honestly, but for the Art maybe, you don't have to go 5/5. Personally I use 3/1, 1/3, 1/2 or 2/1 a lot. Up to 8 players it's enough. You can stack any set using 4 riffles maximum and holding back no more than 5 cards (4 cards in most of the cases).

I'm really glad to see people applying some stuff out of #1. It motivates me for the other volumes Smile.

Thanks to you and keep going practicing.
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Yes its looking good. Thanks.
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On 2012-02-26 10:14, joeyfx wrote:
New Video:
Split-Stacking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7qmpWM5w74

I have to admit though, that I don't hit the last one (holding back 10 cards and splitting into 5/5) consistently yet Smile


Really nice work, Joe. How old are you ? If you don't mind me asking that is.
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Thank you AMcD, means a lot to me Smile
Can't wait for the next volumes.

@Tony45:
Im 20 years old
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On 2012-02-27 07:03, joeyfx wrote:
Thank you AMcD, means a lot to me Smile
Can't wait for the next volumes.

@Tony45:
Im 20 years old


Well, that's some good work you do. Now if you can train the girls as well as you do those cards, youre all set ! Smile
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That looks very cool to me.
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Beautiful, clean, smooth.....I loved it !
Keep up the great work Smile
Reminds me of my youth....no time to practice any more with wife, job and family.
Life gets in the way Smile

NOTE: The only comment that I have is that in some ways it is "too clean". You handle cards too beautifully. You may want to keep this style for people like us.....but, trying to be not as "smooth" may make you look more like a regular lay person handling cards.

Just something to think about....again, I loved the handling and I also prefer a cool, smooth, well timed style Smile ...but, some people may say "too slick" Smile
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Glad you guys liked it
and thank you for the tip Expertmagician
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