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And yet when I I saw Sanders Extreme Burn over and over I was in the dark. SO some hold up and show their value on video.

As to the person asking do you repeat magic over and over live? Sure you do. If you work eateries and are the house magician you get people who either see you perform before, see you perform at another table or bring people back and request effects they liked. I recall one place I worked the owner loved my basic pen through quarter. He and the piano player would stop, like in the old westerns and watch every time I did it. Made me nervous but they never caught it. Today more than ever one needs to select effect that can stand up to more than in the past. Far too many people are now trained to behave like they see audiences do on the street.
I wish I could say this one is good but I fail to see what is new about this in either quality or instruction and see the method has a telegraph that needs to be handled with thought.


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On 2011-05-31 20:07, Xiqual wrote:
This is the state of magic these days. You show people several performances intended for magicians to advertise a product and ask them to figure it out? Sad. When I do magic for people I never do it over and over again, unless the trick is designed for that. Tool is not designed for that BTW.
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On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!

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I absolutely never repeat a trick unless it is in the structure. These days all the magic I do has several phases with the last phase always having some kicker.
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On 2011-06-01 00:39, Powermagic wrote:
And yet when I I saw Sanders Extreme Burn over and over I was in the dark. SO some hold up and show their value on video.

As to the person asking do you repeat magic over and over live? Sure you do.
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On 2011-05-31 20:07, Xiqual wrote:
This is the state of magic these days. You show people several performances intended for magicians to advertise a product and ask them to figure it out? Sad. When I do magic for people I never do it over and over again, unless the trick is designed for that. Tool is not designed for that BTW.
James
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On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!


Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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Some tricks by there very inherent nature are not meant, and or designed to be performed over for the same person(s). However, that certainly doesn't make them bad. There are many great effects that can't be performed twice so it's simply a matter of orchestrating when, and when not to use them. It sounds as though I'm defending this particular trick, which as I mentioned before, I haven't the faintest interest in, but I'm simply trying to state a matter of common sense as to what you decide to perform, and or where you perform any given trick. Smile
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On 2011-06-03 14:43, Eric Ross wrote:
Hey guys!
Sorry, I didn't get to read all this..

I saw this demo, and was curious how this differs from my "Conspiracy"?

http://www.ellusionist.com/conspiracy-by-eric-ross.html

Not blaming anyone.. Not trying to start ANYTHING. Just curious.

E.
http://www.ericrossmagic.com


I don't have it but as far as I know...well...there is no plastic... Smile

The gimmick from Solo, Conspiracy and Tool are basically the same, I thing. I recommend buying one product as this is a good gimmick.
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On 2011-06-03 15:20, madcats9 wrote:

I don't have it but as far as I know...well...there is no plastic... Smile

The gimmick from Solo, Conspiracy and Tool are basically the same, I thing. I recommend buying one product as this is a good gimmick.


Please don’t take offense, but I think Eric is looking for an answer from someone who owns, and has hands on knowledge of both effects, and not conjecture.

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On 2011-06-03 15:20, madcats9 wrote:
I recommend buying one product as this is a good gimmick.


You recommend buying what product?
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Regardless of what anyone thinks, this might be the best and easier signed card to box utility I have ever seen.
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Two days ago I've seen a lecture of David Stone and more than 100 magicians were absolutely amazed. He performed about 5 or 6 routines using the gimmick (he wanted to demonstrate what's possible with it) and after he explained it everyone loved it. I think it's up to you - if you like it, perform it. If you don't like it - let it be. Smile

Cheers guys!
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Hey again,
I just filmed another idea using TOOL by David Stone. I hope you like it. Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFheCQM86eo
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On 2011-05-31 20:06, gaffed wrote:
All too funny how contrasting some of the feelings can be on this, or for that matter, anything!

However, I often find that usually, albeit not always, some of the strongest criticisms come from people who do not have whatever effect is being discussed. Smile


Could not agree more
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I have only been doing magic for a couple of months but it's so easy to use 'Tool' it's almost ridiculous. I don't know what other more experienced performers think would be better methods for the same effects but I'm loving it so far. Smile
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On 2011-06-07 13:11, Black wrote:
Hey again,
I just filmed another idea using TOOL by David Stone. I hope you like it. Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFheCQM86eo


Sheesh - already removed?
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I am not trying to criticize or anything....
but I just bought the Solo by Mark Mason and basically, with one of the gimmicks from Solo, you can perform all routines in Tool since it's a very basic gimmick.

Anyway, Solo comes with another gimmick that makes the card vanish.....and it's little bit cheaper than the Tool!!
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You also only get one gimmick with solo. Tool comes with two so you can have one deck set up for one effect and another deck set up for a completely different effect.
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Little bit confused......kjmking2002 says you receive 2 gimmicks with Solo and Paul Rathbun says you only get 1 gimmick with Solo and 2 with Tool ?

Thanks

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Joe,

With Solo you get a gimmick like in Tool and another gimmick that makes a sandwiched card disappear. With Tool, you receive two identical gimmicks. With Solo, you receive two different types of gimmicks. Hope that helps.

-Paul
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Just for the record: I received one red and one blue gimmick with Tool (ordered from Penguin).
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Paul,

Thank you for getting back to me, and it does help. Thanks again !

Joe
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I just received Tool last week and it appears to me that it is a very amazing trick.
I received the dvd plus 2 blue gimmicks.

I wanted to react with people saying that you can't examine the box afterwards. Well this could seem very weird to you but I did this trick in a close-up gig last week end, the trick where the chosen (and signed) card disappears from the top and comes in the box (this was my final effect after and AC routine). Then this guy on my right was so amazed, he took the box that was on the table and I didn't say anything and I looked relaxed and natural.

And the guy didn't even notice! He just put the box back on the table and kept asking "how did you do that?" afterwards. Maybe he lied but I don't think so because the gimmick, when you quickly look at it isn't obvious because it isn't natural for lay people to see such a thing, they don't even know what a gimmick could be!

I did this again for a friend who didn't take the box to look but I wanted to try if he could see it so I took the box back (with the gimmick on) and showed it to him quickly from side to side and he didn't notice... So I think that you don't need to worry about that kind of things, just know where the heckler is and make sure he won't take the box because a real heckler would see that!

Anyway, this "tool" is very nice and very well made! I recommend buying it and I recommend using it in your routines, create your own effects with it because there are so much possibilities with that beauty!

Cheers.
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On 2011-06-07 16:17, GeneTony wrote:

Sheesh - already removed?

Yes, it had a mistake.. I will film it again soon.
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Tool is amazing. Done correctly the box is not suspect. To laypeople, trick decks are known, but not trick boxes. I do prefer the effects where the box is clean at the end but I don't volunteer it for inspection and no one wants to see the cards or the box afterwards. I just leave everything on the table and take my time putting it away. The box looks clean and the cards they already held, shuffled, and looked at on their own. The DVD has excellent ideas on it. I love the 4 aces showing up after shufling the deck - very nice. Definately don't call attention to the box. I show it as a glimpse while taking it away rather than to prove to people it's not the box. Subtle but important difference.
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