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So I've been doing hypnosis shows for several years now and usually get about half of the people who sit on-stage into a deep enough trance to keep them there. Recently however my shows have been doing much better than 50/50 though and in fact with my most recent show I started with 11 volunteers on-stage and finished the show with 12 after pulling one up on-stage from the audience.

The only significant thing that I have changed is my opening. Recently I started meeting people before any kind of show that I do (magic, hypnosis or motivational speaking) and memorizing the names of everyone that I have met and calling them out by name (sometimes even first and last) as I begin my show. And since I have started my hypnosis shows this way I have notice a huge improvement in the rapport I have with my audience. One gal even told me afterwards that she would have never come up on-stage if I had not called her by name correctly beforehand.

Now I realize that most people are not going to go out and take this on. However I thought I would share with everyone here on the Café' my experience with the importance of rapport in a hypnosis show.

So if you want some tips on doing this and or would simply like to see it in action, check out the video on my website where you can see a live demonstration and learn some insight into how I do it.
And just in case you were about to say it... Yes I do know that Harry Lorayne is famous for doing this. : )

Best regards,

Keir
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Keir -

Rapport is most important to hypnosis. In doing hypnothery the first thing that is needed is to establish rapport. The expression 'pacing and leading' describes this best.

Keep uip the good work.

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Keir,
Thank you for the link to those videos. I have found that when I am hypnotised I respond deeply and completely when the Hypnotist uses my name.
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Be a pleasant and attentive person with good intentions and you can mostly assume rapport, like it is something to be lost rather than won.

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Keir, I totally agree. I really like meeting with the audience before the show at least so they can get an idea of who I am as a person (being polite, and answering questions). I also enjoy doing some pre-show hypnosis on audience members that are too excited to wait. This draws a small crowd for me and I get to do some reading of people I think would be good on stage.
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Barry Sinclair, whom I rate as the best stage hypnotist I have ever seen or am likely to see, always remembered the names of the volunteers, no matter how many. One more thing to work on, I suppose...
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Once, I thought a female volunteer was male.
I was never going to get her after that.
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Tony - have you any idea what Mr. Sinclair is up to these days? I looked at his website, but it looks dated and seems not to have been updated in quite some time.
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I am on the team here.
However, I also believe that, as important as I personally feel rapport IS, I don't believe it's necessary.
The almost aggressive Svengali domination procedure (LOL) will work with many. And I do know many stage hypnotists who are totally against any form of pre-show rapport.
I 'think' MP possibly told me he was one of them a year or so ago. But he'll maybe come in to verify this either way.
Mind you, come to think of it, it was maybe Anthony Jacquin who told me MP was 'one of them'.
Anyway, have a nice day everybody.
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What is your definition of Rapport?
As long as they are responding to you (i.e. not indifferent) then you have something you can utilize.
Milton Erickson hypnotized people who were outrightly defiant with him.

I remember a story in which it was reported that he used words like "I bet you can´t stand up....bet you can´t take 3 steps to the left.....can´t take 6 steps forward.....can´t climb the steps to come up on stage....can´t sit down in that chair and go into a deep trance....."

Obviously if you´re handling a crowd (not just an individual) and the idea is to entertain, and have them tell their friends afterwards how good a time they had, then being nice to them is the best strategy.

I think that barking orders at (the right) people will get good results once you know that´s what they respond to. It´s just not advisable for the stage setting.
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On 2011-04-14 11:02, Owen Mc Ginty wrote:
What is your definition of Rapport?
As long as they are responding to you (i.e. not indifferent) then you have something you can utilize.
Milton Erickson hypnotized people who were outrightly defiant with him.

I remember a story in which it was reported that he used words like "I bet you can´t stand up....bet you can´t take 3 steps to the left.....can´t take 6 steps forward.....can´t climb the steps to come up on stage....can´t sit down in that chair and go into a deep trance....."

Obviously if you´re handling a crowd (not just an individual) and the idea is to entertain, and have them tell their friends afterwards how good a time they had, then being nice to them is the best strategy.

I think that barking orders at (the right) people will get good results once you know that´s what they respond to. It´s just not advisable for the stage setting.

Erickson? Stage?!
But yes. I agree.
Jon Chase teaches "Awe Rapport."
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I think this thread is mistaking 'rapport' for likeability. Estabrooks also used the word but I do not think he meant that.
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I guess it depends on what like doing but I never mix before a show. My reasoning is that its best to build up emotional expectation of the hypnotist and the show. Any show I have ever seen and I am not talking about hypnosis there was a hyped expectation leading to the artist walking on then a release as the show got underway. I think that's what works best for stage at least that's how I see it. I personally don't think you need any rapport for stage work. I think the mental and emotional state of the audience being excited etc is a lot more powerful and useful. Bob was at one of my shows I had a 7 min build up before I walked on including visuals and music.

Doing small demos in an audience before a show just isn't necessary and reduces the "importance" of the hypnotist in my view...unless its a very small or inhibited audience who know each other. I have been in audiences that didn't want to know but I had to pull of a show to get paid. I went into the audience and dominated them dealt with hecklers constant chatting etc. If anything there would be absolutely no rapport almost initimidation and the show ended up doing really well.

And Im not sure about likeability vs Rapport? I don't think you can be in rapport with anyone you don't like. One of the exercises I used to do was teach cross mirroring. Many of the course attendees took the skills into the workplace then discovered they actually liked some people they had disliked for a while after they got into rapport with them.

But that's just my view point.

Liked the video though good demo and presence.
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Wow... so many great thoughts here, thanks to everyone for their input.

Keir
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>>>I think that barking orders at (the right) people will get good results once you know that´s what they respond to. It´s just not advisable for the stage setting.<<<

Actually you must take control especially with larger audiences which includes barking orders. With many audiences you have to show them that you are in control and you will not stand for any nonsense or you will lose them.

I think I know what Ant is getting at. I don't think it is rapport when you use someone's name more of a hard wired anchor. We are conditioned to respond to the sound of our names. You are triggering that response.

True rapport is a two way thing not one way. The danger with rapport is that the other person might sway you to their way of thinking if you are in rapport with them. How many sales people fall for the sob story because they are in rapport?
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This may be of interest to some of you.

The first mention of rapport with relation to mesmerism was in 1845 by Edgar Allen Poe in The Tale of The Ragged Mountains 'I mean to say that between Doctor Templeton and Bedloe there had grown up a very distinct and strongly marked rapport or magnetic relation...this power had attained great intensity'.

It is not until 1894 that it is mentioned with reference to a general therapeutic relationship.

George Estabrooks the best part of a century after Poe wrote 'It is a very curious thing that the subject will only listen to the operator; he will receive suggestions from him alone. Others present may talk to him, shout orders and give suggestions, but he ignores them as completely as if they were on the planet Mars. This curious condition we refer to as "rapport." The subject, we say, is in rapport only with the hypnotist'. Hypnotism 1943

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I understood that true rapport was a two way street. When two people were truly in sync. Especially in sales where sales people get rapport with their customers and are then swayed by the customer.

But perhaps there is a definitive name for that type of rapport?

Hypnotist and subject aren't really in sync its usually a one way street. Although therapy is totally different.
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