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Ended up seeing the Grapes of Wrath again by accident a few nights ago at the Museum of Modern Art.
Wow, what a well-acted and directed movie. A dozen great character actors including John Carradine, Jane Darnell, Charley Grapewin, John Qualen, and of course Henry Fonda with a steely edge to him that he rarely showed in later films. Surprising how much of it speaks to today. Fans of the novel will be disappointed at the optimistic gloss in the latter half of the film, and at the omission of Steinbeck's devastating ending (somewhere there's a film of Gary Sinise's stage adaptation that gets it right), but it still is a powerful film. Tom Joad's I'll Be There declaration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yer4L1Uhayc
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Gary Sinise's version is outstanding. Of course, it's really hard to suspend disbelief while watching this - after all, everyone knows that agricultural labor is one of those jobs that Americans won't do.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-04-30 10:28, LobowolfXXX wrote: Yes they will, just as long as they get rid of the illegals doing it first. American's just can't be seen working next to them.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27294 Posts |
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On 2011-04-30 12:02, gdw wrote: I'm sure the 'native americans' that some call "indians" share your opinion.
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
What a sad story. The real story, as portrayed in the Sinise film. Lenny & George are two sides of Everyman. Incidentally, how George takes care of Lenny at the end is very important. It shows that there are sometimes no good solutions, and you may have to get your hands dirty in order to achieve the best that can be achieved, on this material earth.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-04-30 12:22, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Though that wasn't really MY opinion, I'm sure they would.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Lobo,
The point of the movie is that American workers were exploited. So even without illegals, those jobs are going to be offered at exploitation wages, or else companies will move to countries where they can exploit more. In the movie, the scabs were offered 5 cents a box, but Casey predicted the outcome--without a union they soon would be offered 2.5 cents a box. I'm seeing my view about immigration evolve--as long as capital can move unfettered internationally, labor must be free to do so as well or else it's a race to the bottom.
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On 2011-04-30 12:55, Woland wrote: I think you're thinking of Of Mice and Men which Sinise also did a version of. I like the Burgess Meredith/Lon Chaney version a lot better. Burgess Meredith, another great great actor who too many only know from the Rocky movies.
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HerbLarry Special user Poof! 731 Posts |
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Burgess Meredith, another great great actor who too many only know from the Rocky movies. You mean the Penguin?
You know why don't act naive.
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
You're right, landmark, I was thinking of Of Mice and Men. Lon Chaney's portrayal of Lennie was parodied in innumerable cartoons, wasn't it?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Sinise is a huge Steinbeck fan.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27294 Posts |
You're still walking around and far from the "factor of production" question - as regards supply and demand.
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2011-04-30 17:00, Woland wrote: Yeah, you can tell the era of a cartoon by how they handle the mentally challenged. 1940's - Lenny 1990's - Rainman
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On 2011-04-30 17:20, LobowolfXXX wrote: I saw Sinise's adaptation of Grapes of Wrath on Broadway in 1990. The last scene was extraordinary. Spoiler alert: don't read further if you're going to read the novel or see the Sinise film adaptation. After days of rain, starvation, and loss of work the migrant Joads come across a barn. There, they find a dying man and small boy. The boy tells them that his father has not eaten for six days, having given all available food to his son. Ma looks to her daughter, Rose of Sharon, who has just miscarried, and the girl at once understands her mother's unstated thoughts. Rose of Sharon asks everyone to leave the barn and, once alone, she approaches the starving man. Despite his protests, she holds him close and suckles him. In the theatre, the sense of quiet respect and awe was palpable. Because we understood that the charity was not just from Rose of Sharon, but from the actor who played her, Sally Murphy, in order to bring Steinbeck's vision to life.
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
People used to say that Calouste Gulbenkian kept a wetnurse in his eighties.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4237 Posts |
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On 2011-04-30 16:05, HerbLarry wrote: Oh, LOLOL!!!
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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