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I feel like the theorist in this article just recently got a chance to read "The Time Machine" and was a little too excited about it, lol. I say this mostly because, though the article itself does acknowledge the connection with the H.G. Wells classic, the "scientific" descriptions of the two new races seem extraordinarily similar to the Eloi and Morlocks....
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They made this into a play and movie, "Hedwig and the Angry Inch."
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Oh great, another eugenical theory from a philosopher. Maybe we should ask a biologist for a second opinion.

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There is an inordinate proportion of dim-witted underclass members right here at the not very magical forum.
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On 2011-05-09 18:40, Al Angello wrote:
There is an inordinate proportion of dim-witted underclass members right here at the not very magical forum.


Why you gotta' say stuff like this?
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I did not name any names, but we all know who the dimmest bulbs on the Christmas tree are.
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Well I know who I think are loonies, but I think they're in the minority. I have respect for almost everybody here or I wouldn't keep coming back.
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In case you haven't noticed, we have split into many long ago... ;(
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Pakar's right. There have been males and females as long as I can remember. And contrary to the feminists, I think it's pretty clear that the female has always had the upper hand. Always. Since, like, the beginning.
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Yes, Stone. Professor Munro Edmondson used to say that the first actual word ever spoken was spoken by a woman . . . and the word was "no."
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'Cept of course for stuff like economic parity, legal status, protection from violence, independence and educational opportunity. 'Part from that, they were sure sittin' pretty.

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As a divorced man I will tell you that getting rid of a bad woman will cost you your life savings. I spent everything I had to get rid of Miss wrong, and it was well worth every penny of it. Young men are simply not prepared for this kind of hand to hand combat, and women are trained from birth to catch unsuspecting men like deer frozen in the headlights of a car.
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On 2011-05-10 04:12, stoneunhinged wrote:
Pakar's right. There have been males and females as long as I can remember. And contrary to the feminists, I think it's pretty clear that the female has always had the upper hand. Always. Since, like, the beginning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g3tQaqizh0
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Jerry and George are timeless.
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On 2011-05-10 04:12, stoneunhinged wrote:
Pakar's right. There have been males and females as long as I can remember. And contrary to the feminists, I think it's pretty clear that the female has always had the upper hand. Always. Since, like, the beginning.


While this is true, it is not what I meant. Smile
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It also leaves out the Hermaphrodites. So 2 is an (extremely) conservative estimate.
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'Cept of course for stuff like economic parity, legal status, protection from violence, independence and educational opportunity. 'Part from that, they were sure sittin' pretty.

John


Gotta disagree.

Think of every woman you've ever known--wives, sisters, moms, colleagues...did you ever meet a single one you would consider weak? I bet not. The female homo sapiens sapiens is as tough as nails. And I imagine that this has always been the case.

So while I will not deny that injustice has existed with regard to women, I doubt seriously that such injustice was due to oppression.

Perhaps child bearing (and raising) has something to due to their status in most societies, rather than males exploiting them.

But however you want to look at it, try to give me an interpretation of history that takes into account how tough real-life women are.
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On 2011-05-10 09:08, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
'Cept of course for stuff like economic parity, legal status, protection from violence, independence and educational opportunity. 'Part from that, they were sure sittin' pretty.

John


Gotta disagree.

Think of every woman you've ever known--wives, sisters, moms, colleagues...did you ever meet a single one you would consider weak? I bet not. The female homo sapiens sapiens is as tough as nails. And I imagine that this has always been the case.

So while I will not deny that injustice has existed with regard to women, I doubt seriously that such injustice was due to oppression.

Perhaps child bearing (and raising) has something to due to their status in most societies, rather than males exploiting them.

But however you want to look at it, try to give me an interpretation of history that takes into account how tough real-life women are.


Guess it depends on what you mean by oppression. I view social structures that, say, put women on the same legal standing as property as oppressive. The Christian marriage ceremony still carries vestiges of the transfer of property from the father to the the husband.

Seems to me that prohibitions on female voting, land ownership, education and independence are structurally oppressive.

I heard an interview on the radio last night. By current estimates, a woman in Congo is 50x as likely to be raped than is a woman in the West. Is this oppressive?

John
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Yes, Magnus, it is oppressive, but it has more to do with the differences between Congo and the West, than between men and women.

For an interesting perspective, from an informed psychological/anthropological perspective, may I suggest Roy Baumeister's address, "Is there anything good about men?" delivered to the American Psychological Association in 2007, here.

He later expanded his talk into a book, Oxford University Press, 2010.

Woland
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