On 2011-05-11 20:38, Al Angello wrote:
If there's 1,000,000,000 people in China, and 1,000,000,000 people in India I suppose that I would have to share my small townhouse with a lot of others.

On 2011-05-11 19:00, critter wrote:
More honest (and/or stereotypical) travel slogans:
Southeast Asia: "Nice weather when it's not hurricaning!"
Australia: "Some like it hot. Really hot. And filled with deadly animals."
Canada: "Welcome! (As long as you're white, rich, and support feminism.) Eh."
Afghanistan: "Duck!"
Cambodia: "Duck! No, not there!"
Tibet: "Duck! Rama lama ding dong."
America: "If you ain't with us, you're agin' us!"
Ireland: "If you ain't with us, have a Guinness!"
Scotland: "Guhnuhhnuhnfrnaakh. Ha! Aaa's roit! Wanna' foit abait et?"
England: "No smiling."
Norway: "Have some fish. And a sweater."

On 2011-05-11 20:26, LobowolfXXX wrote:
A million new legal permanent residents per year, and the line keeps backing up...

On 2011-05-11 21:47, landmark wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 20:26, LobowolfXXX wrote:
A million new legal permanent residents per year, and the line keeps backing up...

With all due respect, 0.3% of the US population doesn't seem like a whole lot to me.

On 2011-05-11 23:35, jdmagic357 wrote:
For now, the fact that we invite people of other nations here to do our work, then expect them to just go home when were done using them, seems to me a little unfair.

On 2011-05-11 23:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:35, jdmagic357 wrote:
For now, the fact that we invite people of other nations here to do our work, then expect them to just go home when were done using them, seems to me a little unfair.

Of course, we pay them, too.

Anticipated response: Their pay is a mere pittance.

Rebuttal: It's enough that they go far out of their way to take the deal.

On 2011-05-12 08:06, jdmagic357 wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:35, jdmagic357 wrote:
For now, the fact that we invite people of other nations here to do our work, then expect them to just go home when were done using them, seems to me a little unfair.

Of course, we pay them, too.

Anticipated response: Their pay is a mere pittance.

Rebuttal: It's enough that they go far out of their way to take the deal.

The more pertinent part of my post, was the exploitation of foreign workers. When we abuse others, we should expect some backlash. Most people won't just sit and take it. That is if they have any courage.

Personally, if I was invited to work say in Canada, and was somehow enamored with the country, and sought to stay, I would think that after some time, I might be afforded that opportunity? If not, it might make me a little mad. Maybe even mad enough to stay illegally? I don't know, I'm just speculating?

On 2011-05-12 08:06, jdmagic357 wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:35, jdmagic357 wrote:
For now, the fact that we invite people of other nations here to do our work, then expect them to just go home when were done using them, seems to me a little unfair.

Of course, we pay them, too.

Anticipated response: Their pay is a mere pittance.

Rebuttal: It's enough that they go far out of their way to take the deal.

The more pertinent part of my post, was the exploitation of foreign workers. When we abuse others, we should expect some backlash. Most people won't just sit and take it. That is if they have any courage.

Personally, if I was invited to work say in Canada, and was somehow enamored with the country, and sought to stay, I would think that after some time, I might be afforded that opportunity? If not, it might make me a little mad. Maybe even mad enough to stay illegally? I don't know, I'm just speculating?

On 2011-05-12 09:40, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2011-05-12 08:06, jdmagic357 wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 23:35, jdmagic357 wrote:
For now, the fact that we invite people of other nations here to do our work, then expect them to just go home when were done using them, seems to me a little unfair.

Of course, we pay them, too.

Anticipated response: Their pay is a mere pittance.

Rebuttal: It's enough that they go far out of their way to take the deal.

The more pertinent part of my post, was the exploitation of foreign workers. When we abuse others, we should expect some backlash. Most people won't just sit and take it. That is if they have any courage.

Personally, if I was invited to work say in Canada, and was somehow enamored with the country, and sought to stay, I would think that after some time, I might be afforded that opportunity? If not, it might make me a little mad. Maybe even mad enough to stay illegally? I don't know, I'm just speculating?

Personally, I think that if economic opportunities were so bad here that I were willing to uproot myself and travel hundreds of miles to work in Canada, I might be glad that I had the opportunity, even if it were only temporary. But I, too, am just speculating.

On 2011-05-11 20:25, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 16:08, balducci wrote:

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On 2011-05-11 14:18, Woland wrote:
There are places in the world that many a sane person would flee, and there are places in the world that are very attractive.

Why do so many people want to live in the United States? What makes this the land of opportunity?

Why do even more prefer to go elsewhere, given the opportunity? E.g.:

http://www.rikvin.com/press-releases/sin......-survey/

As the article you cited points out, more people DON'T want to go to Singapore("the United States...was still the preferred destination among workers...") However, the PRESS RELEASE FROM A SINGAPORE-BASED BUSINESS SETUP COMPANY frames the list on a percentage basis, making it essentially impossible for the USA to finish ahead of Singapore. If fifty times as many people wanted to come to the USA as Singapore, we'd still rank behind them.

On 2011-05-12 10:32, balducci wrote:



Anyway, my main point was that more actually want to move someplace else. That still appears to be the case. See this, for instance:

http://www.ocscglobal.com/index.php?task=fullart&PID=61

About 165 million would like to move to the U.S. But more (200 million) would prefer to go to Canada, Britain, France (all three with around 45 million potential migrants); Spain (35 million) and Saudi Arabia (30 million). Note that those five countries have a total population now of 230 million, versus the approximate 310 million population of the U.S.

On 2011-05-12 10:50, LobowolfXXX wrote:

Again, if the question is desirability of a destination country, what insight does the existing population of the destination country have to do with it? The only reason to include such data is to somehow give the illusion that the desirability of a destination country with a large population is somehow less than it is.