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There are places in the world that many a sane person would flee, and there are places in the world that are very attractive.

Why do so many people want to live in the United States? What makes this the land of opportunity?

What would happen if the whole world crossed the border and settled down in the United States? The population density of Java is 2,000 people per square mile. The area of the United States is 3.8 million square miles. If the United States had the population density of Java, it would contain 7,600,000,000 people. So the whole world's population would fit!

But is that really the best solution for the problems that beset the world? Not everyone would want to become an American, and many people undoubtedly like living in their own country.

Wouldn't it be easier for the world's peoples to adopt the framework that has allowed the United States to become successful, i.e. the Constitution? It's all there in simple language. It's only a few pages - unlike the EU's monstrous constitution.

But of course, the US should not impose its Constitution on the rest of the world by force, in order to "make" them follow a successful "business plan." That would be colonialism, wouldn't it?

So they'll either have to pick up and move to the US in order to experience the benefits of a free market and the rule of law, or adopt the same principles for themselves.

Not that I see this happening any time soon.

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I read where the whole world's population would fit easily in a portion Texas with a density of NY City living.
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On 2011-05-11 14:35, Salguod Nairb wrote:
The separation of church and state is enough to sour the milk for most...


The what? Smile
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If everyone moved to the US it would be more crowded here.

That's probably a bad thing.
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For the same reasons the Americans moved there.
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On 2011-05-11 14:35, Salguod Nairb wrote:
The separation of church and state is enough to sour the milk for most...


The what? Smile


Did I stutter?
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On 2011-05-11 14:35, Salguod Nairb wrote:
The separation of church and state is enough to sour the milk for most...


The what? Smile


Did I stutter?


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On 2011-05-11 14:18, Woland wrote:
There are places in the world that many a sane person would flee, and there are places in the world that are very attractive.

Why do so many people want to live in the United States? What makes this the land of opportunity?

Why do even more prefer to go elsewhere, given the opportunity? E.g.:

http://www.rikvin.com/press-releases/sin......-survey/

Singapore has remained the top destination in the world in terms of attracting immigrants and workers, beating other neighbouring and western economic powerhouse, a recent Gallup survey told.

The survey, which aims to calculate the member countries’ Potential Net Migration Index (PNMI), was conducted among 350,000 people in some 148 countries from 2007 to 2010.
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That is a valid point. "Come to the U.S. and be unemployed and lose your house."

I guess it doesn't have the same ring to it as "Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free".
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On 2011-05-11 14:55, S2000magician wrote:
If everyone moved to the US it would be more crowded here.

That's probably a bad thing.


Not if we put them all in Texas.
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On 2011-05-11 14:43, Doug Higley wrote:
I read where the whole world's population would fit easily in a portion Texas with a density of NY City living.


Actually, I think that would make Texas twelve times denser than NYC...
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I would counter the topic title with, what if none of our ancestors had been allowed to move to the US?
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Woland, I think you're confused. You seem to be describing a mythical land of opportunity and free markets, but you keep mentioning the united states.

Speaking of which, does anyone here still consider america the "freeest" country in the world?
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I've enjoyed my time in United States. Beautiful country and a lot of things I really miss. And many great friends. But I wouldn't want to move there.

I think everyone just need to accept the fact that the perfect country does not exist. I would love to live in a country where church and state are kept separate but I love living in a country where more tax money is spent on education and healthcare instead of military. I could go on and pick things I find appealing, from many countries.
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More honest (and/or stereotypical) travel slogans:
Southeast Asia: "Nice weather when it's not hurricaning!"
Australia: "Some like it hot. Really hot. And filled with deadly animals."
Canada: "Welcome! (As long as you're white, rich, and support feminism.) Eh."
Afghanistan: "Duck!"
Cambodia: "Duck! No, not there!"
Tibet: "Duck! Rama lama ding dong."
America: "If you ain't with us, you're agin' us!"
Ireland: "If you ain't with us, have a Guinness!"
Scotland: "Guhnuhhnuhnfrnaakh. Ha! Aaa's roit! Wanna' foit abait et?"
England: "No smiling."
Norway: "Have some fish. And a sweater."
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Man, I didn't know poultry is such a problem in certain countries... Smile
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On 2011-05-11 14:18, Woland wrote:
There are places in the world that many a sane person would flee, and there are places in the world that are very attractive.

Why do so many people want to live in the United States? What makes this the land of opportunity?

Why do even more prefer to go elsewhere, given the opportunity? E.g.:

http://www.rikvin.com/press-releases/sin......-survey/


As the article you cited points out, more people DON'T want to go to Singapore("the United States...was still the preferred destination among workers...") However, the PRESS RELEASE FROM A SINGAPORE-BASED BUSINESS SETUP COMPANY frames the list on a percentage basis, making it essentially impossible for the USA to finish ahead of Singapore. If fifty times as many people wanted to come to the USA as Singapore, we'd still rank behind them.
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Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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A million new legal permanent residents per year, and the line keeps backing up...
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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