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magic4u02
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In my Philadelphia area. I have developed a network of magicians of whom we all trust and have talked about our shows and pricing. With this in mind, we all have agreed to pass work to each other if someone can't do a show and gets a request for one.

We do not charge each other commission but we get a lot out of it. it is a commitment from each of us and we all honor it. It is great for the client because I never have to turn a client away even if I can't personally help them.

The clients love this and in many times, call me back thanking me for the extra effort I took in finding a performer for their event. This often times leads them to using me or a network friend for other events.

It may not be for everyone, but it has worked for us.
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wizardofsorts
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Guys,
Make sure you notice the difference between agents and managers. While agents might be kept to a certain % but managers are not. Also, I would check that the agent rules you read about aren't in fact for 'actors' and union actors at that. Because it is a union rule for actors to limit to 10% but here in Pittsburgh an agent can take any amount you are foolish enough to agree to for non union work.
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Eldon
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I'm not sure what the limit is in Illinois, but it does apply to all agents and all entertainers be they union actors or birthday party magicians. Come to think of it birthday party magicians make more than union actors. I know because I've been both.
Salazar Magic
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<<Also, I would check that the agent rules you read about aren't in fact for 'actors' and union actors at that. Because it is a union rule for actors to limit to 10% but here in Pittsburgh an agent can take any amount you are foolish enough to agree to for non union work.>>

These percentages apply to all entertainers as stated in the New Jersey Entertinment Law

<<Make sure you notice the difference between agents and managers. While agents might be kept to a certain % but managers are not>>

Although both agents and managers are personal representatives, they each serve distinct functions. Sometimes an artist may want a combination manager/agent to pay a joint, and sometimes smaller, commission to one person for performing both duties. However, in some states, it is illegal for a person to be both a booking agent and a personal manager.

There are different types of managers in the entertainment business. The most common ones are personal managers, road managers and business managers. Unlike agents, managers are unlikely to have a large stable of artists. This is because managers tend to have more in depth involvement in the artist's career and day to day activities. Managers counsel and advise the artist on virtually all aspects of the artist's career. Personal managers work closer and on a more personal basis with the artist than their counterpart, the agent, who hustles and fields the employment opportunities. Depending on your State's laws, it may or may not be legal for a manager to seek employment opportunities for you.
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