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Potty the Pirate
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I forget the exact wording of that famous quote - but the essence of it is: "lots of work and little talent beats lots of talent and little work." I never once wanted to be a performer when I was young. But I loved magic and singing, both performing arts. My desire to sing and do magic forced me to become a performer. Today, my friends consider that I was "born to perform"...and yet somehow, I know in my heart that I'm a very retiring and solitary character. Performing is now what I love to do...but far more because I love to share the joy of music and magic, than because I want to be the centre of attention.
As to Magic as a serious art form - of course it is! The absurd spectacles that have been presented as "fine art" in recent years are testament to the fact that "Art is in the eye of the beholder." Geez, now you can simply inflate a plastic bag, and hang it from the ceiling, and it's considered "fine art". I noticed a single inflated plastic bag is nominated for an International Art prize this year. I wonder how this is "more artistic" than the multiple inflated plastic bags that have been presented previously? No doubt, when it comes to Art, the Emperor often Wears no Clothes.
In the same NY museum which houses Van Gough's beautiful "Starry Nights" (The Metropolitan Museum of Modern Art), are many dour canvases, with nothing upon them except - for example - a broad red stripe, presumably made with a large house-painter's brush. In my opinion, the perception of "Art" is badly flawed. Tracey Emmin should never have been given such accolades for submitting her filthy bedroom for her art degree. Damien Hirst should never have been recognised for his "pickled cows" and other awful pieces (which he simply copied from an old Victorian book about medicinal research). Yet modern folks are so fickle, and they have little perception of what truly constitutes "Art".
Undoubtedly though, one of the finest art forms of modern times is balloon twisting. An art form which, true to modern understanding, is short-lived and the beauty of which rapidly decays.
Yes, children's entertainers are truly at the forefront of Modern Art, though we have yet to be recognised....
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Performance art (ala gatherings at train stations etc) are not new.
We did them back in my college days. As a mime, I was paired with 3 piece jazz bands or a harpist(string not the 10 hole hohner harmonica) at museums and art galleries.

Mime doesn't seem to have a large public figure as does vent(Dunham or Fator) and magic.(Copperfield, Angel) Magic does have you(or me) at your latest gig, adding or subtracting to the image of magic as an art. Over the years I have done both.

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Quote:
Mime doesn't seem to have a large public figure...


Would you not consider Marcel Marceau, Shields & Darnell, Mummenschanz, early Robin Williams and The San Francisco Mime Troupe to be large public figures in mime? A bit dated, perhaps, but so is Copperfield these days.
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I remember them well. Living in Reno for awhile, allowed me to see great acts. (Shields and Darnell, Jay Johnson, Wayland Flowers, and with a short trip to the bay seeing Penn and Teller (and one other person down in the cellar)

Though I don't wear the white anymore, I still do silent bits. Some are whole routines, sometimes it is just a double take....or the old pulling on the rope...then realizing I don't have a rope.

Note to self ...see if there are any videos online of Mummenschanz.



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a bit dated himself...and not as "large public figure". (lost 4 inches on the waist, and 37 pounds over the last 2 years)
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I LOVED Mummenschanz when I was akid! It was one of those things which sort of straddled the line between wonder & fear. The thing with mime is....well...it's hard to explain, but at some point for some reason the public simply soured on it. Now it's the butt of a thousand jokes. Wheras the mime performers pretty much petered-out after Mummenschanz, magic constantly has new stars shooting across the sky....even if Copperfield is a bit dated, Blaine & Angel aren't.
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Skip,

I tend to subscribe to the Doug Henning formula that magic + theatre = art. In fact, that winning combination is what pushed Doug into the major leagues. Notice how Doug never said magic is art. He believed that magic could be art, but not without theatre.

By all means, though, believe whatever you want to believe.

Gerry
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Wonder seemed to be the word I connect with Henning.
Back then I had "the hair". Mine was very curly. With my "no hawk", these days if I grew it long, I would look more like a "Bozo".

Harris

Posted: May 25, 2011 11:49am
I love reading old Linking Rings. (I.B.M. Magazine)
Last night I was reading one and came on and article...Magic ..Art ...or Con Game.

as they used to say on Laugh In

Veeeeeeeeery Interesting

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