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Well there you go. He says he was having lunch with his daughter when this incident happened. So he must be innocent. The super rich and influencial are never guilty. Even Clinton said what he did was not sex so he did not lie to the grand jury.

So there you have it. Another rich and influencial individual falsely accused. When will it end?

Why does everyone keep picking on the super rich? They have enough problems.

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Wow. Surely only a liberal would describe Strauss-Kahn (with an estimated monthly net income of only £22,000 net a month) as "super rich".

Showing your true colors here, are you?
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That's what he says . . . but his lawyer says it was "consensual."

Meanwhile, Luis de Miranda, a columnist for the leftist newspaper "Libération" who sees himself in the tradition of Jacques Lacan, Gilles Deleuze, Martin Heidegger, and Karl Marx, writes that Strauss-Kahn is a "philosophical hero" whose "Sofitel action" was "an insane gesture of total liberation, almost a work of art" which was "a sacrifice, a renunciation of superpower, and a to the general French interest."

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Finalement, je crois que DSK a deux raisons de se réjouir aujourd’hui, et nous avec lui : la première est que son passage à l’acte du Sofitel est un refus de l’avenir tout tracé que la plupart lui prédisaient. En cela, l’assaut de l’ouvrière de chambre est un geste fou de libération totale, presque une œuvre d’art, en ce que le geste lui permet aussi, au passage, de révéler qu’il n’a jamais été de gauche.

La seconde raison de se réjouir, c’est que ce suicide prouve, in fine, que la raison a triomphé de l’animal. L’étincelle spirituelle qui germe au fond de DSK a voulu nous éviter un président calligulien. Cet événement new-yorkais est un sacrifice, un renoncement à une surpuissance annoncée, un don à l’intérêt général français. En cela, DSK, tu es héroïque. Merci.


It is difficult to translate such drivel effectively. If you can read French, the rest of it is even more vile and more ridiculous.

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He is at least a a multi-millionaire. Funny thing to be when you're a Socialist. Smile
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Not really, Kevin. Capitalism is where anyone can live like successful capitalists if they work hard enough and effective enough. Socialism is where resources are taken from society at large so that an elite few can live like successful capitalists (in the name of "equality").
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Yes really, Scott. He's taking resources from the IMF, i.e $3,000 per night rooms. Who knows what else he's using as a perk. BTW The IMF is the ultimate society.
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On 2011-05-17 18:20, balducci wrote:
Wow. Surely only a liberal would describe Strauss-Kahn (with an estimated monthly net income of only £22,000 net a month) as "super rich".

Showing your true colors here, are you?


There is probbly no one more to the right on this forum than myself. Having said that wake up and smell the roses.

Read this:

Salary: Strauss-Kahn drew ire from IMF critics when it was announced in 2007 that he would reap roughly $500,000 in salary and expense allowances. That meant he was earning more than the head of the World Bank, the United States president and the United Nations Secretary General at the time.

Homes: By the Guardian’s estimations, the list of Strauss-Kahn’s various real estate holdings is long and impressive. For starters, there’s his roughly $5.7 million Paris home and his $4.1 million Washington, D.C. pied a terre. He owns a riad in Marrakech (the price was not specified for this one) and a couple of other flats in Paris valued at upwards of $4 million each. Why on earth he was staying at a hotel in the first place, when these are the kinds of accommodations he can afford to purchase, may be one of the greatest mysteries of all.
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On 2011-05-17 18:20, balducci wrote:
Wow. Surely only a liberal would describe Strauss-Kahn (with an estimated monthly net income of only �22,000 net a month) as "super rich".

Showing your true colors here, are you?


There is probbly no one more to the right on this forum than myself.

All the more surprising you keep referring to someone with a few palty millions of dollars to his name as "super-rich". As for his houses, I wonder how leveraged / mortgaged they are?
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On 2011-05-17 18:20, balducci wrote:
Wow. Surely only a liberal would describe Strauss-Kahn (with an estimated monthly net income of only �22,000 net a month) as "super rich".

Showing your true colors here, are you?


There is probbly no one more to the right on this forum than myself.

All the more surprising you keep referring to someone with a few palty millions of dollars to his name as "super-rich". As for his houses, I wonder how leveraged / mortgaged they are?


OK you win he is poor. You are right and I am wrong. Also he has no power to influence the super rich nor can he be considered super rich with the influence he has.
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Man, I wish I was so poor that I only had a few million dollars...

To that end: If someone has a few million they'd like to give me then I promise I'll do my best not to ***rape any maids or janitors.
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On NPR today, they mentioned that the hotel rents those $3000 a night suites to the French for a paltry $800 a night.
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On NPR today, they mentioned that the hotel rents those $3000 a night suites to the French for a paltry $800 a night.

I'm not surprised. When they say $3000 a night, that is almost certainly rack rate.
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Mark Steyn sums it all up:

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Great men who are prone to Big Government invariably have Big Appetites, and you comely serving wenches who catch the benign sovereign's eye or anything else he's shooting your way should keep in mind the Big Picture . . .

Nor are such dispensations confined to Great Men's trousers. Timothy Geithner failed to pay the taxes he owed the United States Treasury but that's no reason not to make him head of the United States Treasury. His official explanation for this lapse was that, unlike losers like you, he was unable to follow the simple yes/no prompts of Turbo Tax: In that sense, unlike the Frenchman and the maid, Geithner's defense is that she wasn't asking for it – or, if she was, he couldn't understand the question. Nevertheless, just as only Dominique could save the European economy, so only Timmy could save the U.S. economy. Yes, they Kahn!

How's that working out? In the U.S., Geithner is currently running around bleating that we need to raise the $14 trillion debt ceiling another couple of trillion. On the Continent, the IMF, an institution most Westerners vaguely assume is there as a last resort for Third World basket cases, is intimately involved in the ever more frantic efforts to save the Euro from collapse. Good thing we had these two indispensable men on the case, or who knows how bad things would be.

The arrest of a mediocre international civil servant in the first-class cabin of his jet isn't just a sex story: It's a glimpse of the widening gulf between the government class and their subjects in a post-prosperity West. Neither Geithner nor Strauss-Kahn have ever created a dime of wealth in their lives. They have devoted their careers to "public service," and thus are in the happy position of rarely if ever having to write a personal check. At the Sofitel in New York, DSK was in a $3,000-per-night suite. Was the IMF picking up the tab? If so, you the plucky U.S. taxpayer paid around 550 bucks of that, whereas Strauss-Kahn's fellow Frenchmen put up less than $150. So if, as Le Nouvel Observateur suggests, France and America really do belong in entirely different civilizations, the French one ought to start looking for a new patron for the heroic DSK's lifestyle.

Fortunately, when the burdens of recognizability get too great, M Strauss-Kahn is able to retreat to his house in Washington, or his apartment in Paris, or his second apartment in Paris, or his riad in Marrakesh. Oh, c'mon, you provincial bozos: A "riad" is a palatial Moorish residence built around an interior courtyard. Everyone knows that. A lifetime of devoted "public service" in "socialist" France isn't yet as remunerative as in Mubarak's Egypt or Saddam's Iraq, but we're getting there. As the developed world drowns under the weight of Big Government, the gilded princelings of statism will hunker down in their interior courtyards and guard their privileges ever more zealously. Once in a while, as in that Manhattan hotel suite, a chance encounter between the seigneurs and their subjects will go awry, but more often, as in the Geithner confirmation, it will be understood that the Great Men of the Permanent Governing Class cannot be bound by the rules they impose on the rest of you schmucks.


The rest of the column is just as good.

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Wow. Surely only a liberal would describe Strauss-Kahn (with an estimated monthly net income of only �22,000 net a month) as "super rich".

Showing your true colors here, are you?


There is probbly no one more to the right on this forum than myself.

All the more surprising you keep referring to someone with a few palty millions of dollars to his name as "super-rich". As for his houses, I wonder how leveraged / mortgaged they are?



I 'think' he paid the 1 million dollars bail in cash. At least that's what Jon Stewart told me. Seems like you have to be worth more than a few million to come up with a million in cash and severl multi-million dollar homes. But maybe that's just me.
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Just ask balducci...he says he has just a palty few million dollars.

I don't know about you but I have a hard time putting the word "paltry" and a "few million dollars" in the same sentence. Balducci does not consider him with the super rich. He just hangs with them along with his wife and makes decisions that affect them so I am sure he is not considered one of them. Smile

Of course I expect to get a post from balducci explaining just what "super rich" means as opposed to just a few million dollars when you can come up with a million in cash for bail. Of course we have those who have multimillions so I am not sure where one draws the line between a paltry few million dollars and super rich and mega rich and Near God rich. But I am sure balducci can explain.
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I 'think' he paid the 1 million dollars bail in cash. At least that's what Jon Stewart told me. Seems like you have to be worth more than a few million to come up with a million in cash and severl multi-million dollar homes. But maybe that's just me.

Getting your news from Stewart is your first mistake. Lol. Smile

DSK is absolutely rich and influential, no doubt about that whatsoever. But he is also a kept man, or something like it. His wife is reported as the one who funded his bail. If anyone, it is his heiress wife Anne Sinclair (granddaughter of Paul Rosenberg) who is "super-rich".

http://www.dotspress.com/anne-sinclairs-....../772453/
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Re: Woland's article above:

So Steyn is saying 1) that DSK is a sex offender because he's part of Big Government and 2) that taxpayers have paid for part of his expenses. And of course Geithner cheated on his taxes for the same reason.

Would that affliction affect only Socialists and Democrats or might this malady affect conservatives as well? I'm guessing probably not since an intellectually honest person would have mentioned similar misdeeds if they had ever been committed by conservatives. Because we all know that no small government advocates have ever been accused of sex crimes or cheated on their taxes.

What raw insight Steyn has! An Einstein! As my imaginary great-aunt Sarah would have said, "So tell me, for this he gets paid?"
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No, Steyn is not saying that DSK is a sex offender because he is an apparatchik of a would-be world-government. He's saying that DSK's supporters think he should be treated differently than as a mere mortal because of his exalted status. Nor is he saying that Geithner cheated on his taxes because he is an advocate of big government. The fact that Geithner cheated on his taxes is not the issue, the issue is that he was thought worthy of being Secretary of the Treasury despite that. You try telling the IRS that you don't understand TurboTax . . .

It's not a question of misdeeds. What we see is a revelation of the attitudes of the nomenklatura, of the officials of the state. Here, landmark, the point is that the self-appointed tribunes of the people are no less likely to demand the right of cuissage than their feudal antecedents. The difference is, that the feudal overlords professed an ideology which accounted for their powers, the modern statists profess to be all about the little guy. And yet DSK's defenders in the French press openly expect him to receive special treatment because of his status as a high government official. In the French press, it is DSK's accuser who is seen to be in the wrong, quite the opposite of what we would see in our own press here, whether the seigneur was a liberal like John Edwards and Bill Clinton or a conservative like Mark Sanford.

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And yet DSK's defenders in the French press openly expect him to receive special treatment because of his status as a high government official. In the French press, it is DSK's accuser who is seen to be in the wrong, quite the opposite of what we would see in our own press here, whether the seigneur was a liberal like John Edwards and Bill Clinton or a conservative like Mark Sanford.

Would you mind posting links to some of these articles in the French press in which they openly expect DSK to receive special treatment because of his status as a high government official? (I assume you are talking about 'non-trivial' special status, i.e., beyond what any small time Hollywood star or mid-level public official would normally receive in the United States.)

I'm not saying these articles do not exist, I just haven't seen any of them and I would like to.

I _have_ seen some in the French press make suggestions that he might have been set up, but that is something else again.
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