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Happy to oblige, balducci.

You could start with Bernard-Henri Levy, here:

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Je ne sais pas – mais cela, en revanche, il serait bon que l’on puisse le savoir sans tarder – comment une femme de chambre aurait pu s’introduire seule, contrairement aux usages qui, dans la plupart des grands hôtels new-yorkais, prévoient des « brigades de ménage » composées de deux personnes, dans la chambre d’un des personnages les plus surveillés de la planète.

Et je veux pas non plus entrer dans les considérations de basse psychologie – comme on dit basse police – qui, prétendant pénétrer dans la tête de l’intéressé et observant, par exemple, que le numéro de la fameuse chambre (2806) correspondait à la date (28.06) de l’ouverture des primaires socialistes don't il est l’incontestable favori, concluent à un acte manqué, un lapsus suicidaire, patati, patata.

Ce que je sais c’est que rien au monde n’autorise à ce qu’un homme soit ainsi jeté aux chiens.

Ce que je sais c’est que rien, aucun soupçon, car je rappelle que l’on ne parle, à l’heure où j’écris ces lignes, que de soupçons, ne permet que le monde entier soit invité à se repaître, ce matin, du spectacle de sa silhouette menottée, brouillée par 30 heures de garde à vue, encore fière.


Or Jean Daniel, founder of le Nouvel Observateur:

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Le sort infligé à DSK par la justice américaine, par la conception que nous avons de la transparence, par le règne de l’image, bref par les lois nouvelles de notre métier, ce sort est tout simplement épouvantable.

Nous avons assisté à l’organisation médiatique d’une mise à mort, comme dans une corrida où l’on sait que le taureau va mourir, sauf qu’il n’y avait cette fois aucun torero qui prenne des risques. Strauss-Kahn donnait bien l’impression d’un taureau blessé qui met un genou à terre et attend l’estocade.

Il avait l’air de dire : "Finissons-en puisque vous voulez ma mort." Pourquoi cette retransmission publique de son calvaire ? Au nom de l’égalité ! Au nom du devoir de transparence ! Voilà comment l’on transforme, salit et déshonore des principes qui ont eu leur noblesse. L’égalité ? Tous les acteurs élus de cette cérémonie - car ils sont tous élus, la juge comme les policiers - savaient que Strauss-Kahn n’était pas un homme comme les autres et qu’il ne serait pas également traité par la meute des journalistes, des photographes et de cameramen qui l’attendaient.

C’était au contraire une inégalité savamment organisée et appliquée. La transparence ? Mais laquelle ? Ou a-t-on entendu un juge quelconque donner le détail des chefs d’accusation, tous les détails mais surtout les preuves.


Or the comments of Robert Badinter, a former Minister of Justice, reported in le Figaro:


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L'ancien ministre de la Justice, Robert Badinter, a dénoncé aujourd'hui sur France Inter "une mise à mort médiatique" de Dominique Strauss-Kahn aux Etats-Unis. "Ce que j'ai vu, le spectacle de cet homme mal rasé, le visage défait, exhibé, mitraillé par les photographes, c'est une mise à mort médiatique", a déclaré le sénateur socialiste. Interrogé sur les images de Dominique Strauss-Kahn diffusées hier, l'ancien ministre de la Justice s'est dit "bouleversé et indigné" par cette "tragédie".

Il a dénoncé "l'exibition, provoquée, organisée par la police américaine de Dominique Strauss-Kahn sortant de garde à vue"."C'est honteux, ça n'a rien à voir avec la justice", a-t-il ajouté, parlant de "destruction délibérée". Badinter a fustigé l'attitude de la justice américaine : "La justice américaine, les Américains pensent que c'est la première du monde. Ce n'est pas celle que je porterai au podium".

Il déplore également le traitement réservé au directeur général du FMI et aurait "aimé l'égalité des armes" entre "l'accusatrice" et "le présumé innocent" : "On dit +c'est la justice égale pour tous+. Plaisanterie, dérision! En vérité, quand Strauss-Kahn est là assis au milieu des autres, il est ravalé délibérement au rang de dealer". "Où est l'égalité des chances quand en effet l'accusatrice dit 'je suis la victime' et qu'on la protège et DSK répond 'je plaide non coupable', et on l'accable ?", a-t-il plaidé.

Robert Badinter voit dans ces évènements la "défaillance d'un système entier". Après avoir rappelé que les procureurs et les chefs de la police américains étaient élus, il a ajouté : "évidemment, par rapport au public, montrer qu'on traite ainsi un homme puissant et considérable en présence d'une victime qui, elle, est de condition très modeste, électoralement, c'est payant".


That's a start, anyway.

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Steyn was not trying to make a distinction between the French and the US. Otherwise he wouldn't have brought up Geithner. To Steyn they were clearly both examples of the problem of Big Government. He is not contrasting the two, but clearly pointing out their similarities. His selective examples are to "prove" to his selective audience the selective horrors of Big government.
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Yes, that's right, landmark. There are similarities in the attitudes of the statist, generally socialist nomenklatura of both countries. These men do not think that the laws which they apply to you, should be applied to them. More often than not, they are not.
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I 'think' he paid the 1 million dollars bail in cash. At least that's what Jon Stewart told me. Seems like you have to be worth more than a few million to come up with a million in cash and severl multi-million dollar homes. But maybe that's just me.

Getting your news from Stewart is your first mistake. Lol. Smile

DSK is absolutely rich and influential, no doubt about that whatsoever. But he is also a kept man, or something like it. His wife is reported as the one who funded his bail. If anyone, it is his heiress wife Anne Sinclair (granddaughter of Paul Rosenberg) who is "super-rich".

http://www.dotspress.com/anne-sinclairs-....../772453/


Oh!!! So HE's not super rich, it's just his WIFE that's super rich. I got it. Just like Linda Gates isn't super rich, Bill's the one! Now that's some pretty screwy logic.
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Here in England the rules are far tighter than the USA and it is quite shocking to see how the USA allow the tv to prejudge people before the trial begins.
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Here in England the rules are far tighter than the USA and it is quite shocking to see how the USA allow the tv to prejudge people before the trial begins.


Tommy, The Daily Show with John Stewart is a parody news show. They make fun of other news shows and also politicians. I wouldn't take what they say as representative of how things work in the US. Stewart himself contantly refers to it as "fake news."
As far as any other media bias, I imagine the jury will likely be sequestered in a high profile case like this, in order to minimize the influence. I believe that's what usually happens.
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If D.S.K. is guilty and he probably is hopefully he will have the book thrown at him and then be put away where Bubba Sue Billy Bob can take take care of his needs for the next several years.
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Yes, that's right, landmark. There are similarities in the attitudes of the statist, generally socialist nomenklatura of both countries. These men do not think that the laws which they apply to you, should be applied to them. More often than not, they are not.

I see it's only the socialist nomenklatura that are sex offenders and tax cheats. Is the implication that rich conservatives are vastly more moral? Curious that Steyn selectively picks out examples that somehow never seem to include the sex offenders and tax cheats of his party.
But at least we agree that the rich and powerful are often corrupt. Can I get a gig on ABC or FOX now?
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Here in England the rules are far tighter than the USA and it is quite shocking to see how the USA allow the tv to prejudge people before the trial begins.


I agree. Despite the presumption of innocence, it is not uncommon for people to often be tried in the press. It's part of that trickly tightrope called freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Just the same, I agree with you on this one, I believe that there should be some basic protections for those accused.
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No, landmark, it is not only the socialist nomenklatura who are immoral and corrupt. But they are.
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So that would have to have included George Bush, former CEO of the United Socialist States of America.
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Strangely enough, in contrast to the present case which has sparked our discussion, he was never charged with forcing himself on any woman.
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Strangely enough, in contrast to the present case which has sparked our discussion, he was never charged with forcing himself on any woman.


Actually, I believe charges were filed. They were dropped after she apparently committed suicide.
Are we talking about the same Bush?
Bear in mind, I'm not saying I think he did it.
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Strangely enough, in contrast to the present case which has sparked our discussion, he was never charged with forcing himself on any woman.

But Woland your point was that all the socialist nomenklatura were pigs. Either this is a socialist country or it isn't.
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So that would have to have included George Bush, former CEO of the United Socialist States of America.


We weren't the Socialist States of America till B.O. took office.

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Here is an over looked fact. What was the name of the horse that Mohamed ascended to heaven on? Barak.


and the significance of this "over looked fact" is?
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Holy crap. I now regret my contribution to this insanity.
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Here is an over looked fact. What was the name of the horse that Mohamed ascended to heaven on? Barak.


and the significance of this "over looked fact" is?


Since the thread was headed south or had already gone that way. What is B.O.'s First name? Do the math and hopefully you will figure it out.
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Here is an over looked fact. What was the name of the horse that Mohamed ascended to heaven on? Barak.

I think your over looked fact may be a little off.

Barack means Blessed. Barack is of African origin, and is a form of the Hebrew name Baruch. Baruch is also the name of one of the Catholic deuterocanonical scriptural texts.

Borak is of Arabic origin, and means "the lightning". Al Borak or Al-Burāq was the name of the heavenly winged horse.
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