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On 2011-05-20 11:53, Bobby Maverick wrote:
I'm saddened because of labels, and I'm saddened by those who will not let them go, or try and bring them back into discussions because they've run out of things to say. So, lets get an old argument started over gain! And a pointless one at that!!!! No thanks.


I guess one of the best ways to keep your name out there is to create controversy. Here's a question..what if nobody cares about the controversy anymore? What if most of us have moved on? What about those that just want to learn? Now where's your juice?

It's hard to get a fish to bite on old bait.

A dear friend said to me a while back "If nobody has anything good to say, people will listen to who talks the loudest." I said to him "Yeah, but what happens when somebody does have something good to say? Doesn't it take away the noise, and the nonsense?" He said "I hope so, but its hard to talk over the noise sometimes..." I guess we shall see...

Sooner or later folks will open their eyes and hearts and see what's been said and done to them...and their gonna be upset. Why? Because they thought they had to make a choice when they didn't. They were told there were sides. There arent. They were led to believe that one is bad and the other is good. Not true. Both good.
This is how wars happen. Sometimes, enemies are CREATED.
I don't want any enemies. I want to work, and leave it better than I found it...its all I got.


This is great stuff Bobby, it made me very sad when I was seeing new guys coming along and finding that the only way they could build themselves up was by tearing others down or by creating conflicts where none existed - instead of just doing the work.

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Devious, I can see you're newer to this and relate on a somewhat novice level, but you are right it does take dedication. Only, I think the way you are referring to it is on a much smaller scale.

The dedication and study I'm talking about has almost nothing to do with weather or number of people. It has to do with seeking out the very best material and teaching tools you can find and being focussed on being as good as you can possibly be while honoring thise tools and materials.

The day to day grind on the pitch is what it is.
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Tsk, tsk, tsk....
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Well, it *was* a good post... I'll second Devious' tsking.
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I grew from failing and persisting. I learn from the streets. Here is the secret to what we do:

STOP POSTING...START WORKING

I never learned how to busk from posting on the internet. If you love this lifestyle, You will get to know the Pro's on the streets. You will call them on the phone, You talk to them when you fail and you laugh and share when you succeed. You will learn it on the streets. its just hard to belive you've been doing this long if your posting your city, state and view from your pitch while tsk tsk tsking like you are. I just say your trying to prove something. If your not trying to prove anything... STOP POSTING... KEEP WORKING! I m posting this mainly so I can get to thirty posts! I heard if I get more than 30 than I'm street right?
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.... ... .... ..... ... ... ....... ......only fools argue with fools
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No arguing, simple post take or leave it. just an observation.. off topic no doubt. I should have kept it to myself. But I didn't. I sliped up . I should've been humble and culled it to the back of my mind like a lot of stuff. I have no business in your business. my bad. post on sir. Ive never met you. I am ignorant. I am going to go work on my show.

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On 2011-10-28 01:40, Jason Shapiro wrote:
I grew from failing and persisting. I learn from the streets. Here is the secret to what we do:

STOP POSTING...START WORKING

I never learned how to busk from posting on the internet. If you love this lifestyle, You will get to know the Pro's on the streets. You will call them on the phone, You talk to them when you fail and you laugh and share when you succeed. You will learn it on the streets. its just hard to belive you've been doing this long if your posting your city, state and view from your pitch while tsk tsk tsking like you are. I just say your trying to prove something. If your not trying to prove anything... STOP POSTING... KEEP WORKING! I m posting this mainly so I can get to thirty posts! I heard if I get more than 30 than I'm street right?


Did you get bitted for something?

welcome to this green thing... are you trying to prove anything? this is the place where silly people talks about life on the streets... we lick the ass of each others here, and we are very happy... don't TELL ME TO WORK, tomorrow I will be entertaining kids for 3 hours and in the end I will do a kids show... YES, I DO KIDS SHOWS, ARE YOU HAPPY NOW? this is a corner where happy and coloured people talks about how to do loads of money, if you don't like money, go away and don't **** us of anymore... or you can be the next in the list...

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I will stay positive. I wont tell you to work Eduardo. These forums Are for posting lots, streets are for working. posts should happened here. Discusions happen on the pitch. Lick on.
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A couple of observations:

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On 2011-05-19 11:36, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Keep an open an open mind. don't buy into one mode of thinking....don't feel pressed because you do any style of show and others do something different.

Study everything you can from everyone that is successful. I don't mean success in money but they actually have a good show, whether its with a table or without it. don't get caught up thinking one way is wrong and another is right. This only leads to having a closed mind, and probably a terrible show. The evidence speaks for itself if you watch the videos that are posted...



Now I have no problem with this advice other than using video as the exclusive abiter. In "don't get caught up thinking one way is wrong and another is right" is good advice. Do you follow it yourself?

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On 2011-05-19 11:36, Bobby Maverick wrote:

Here's a way to tell if the show is good... Listen to the audience in the video, watch their faces. Look at their reactions. I don't mean when someone keeps saying "say yeah!" and they do. I mean the genuine responses. (If there are any.)If there is amazement, laughter and real happiness then I think there's a great chance you're watching a good performer.
I don't know what you think is "good", and you don't know what I think is "good", but I can tell you it shouldn't matter, because it's what the audience thinks that matters!!!
Look for genuine response and happiness, if you find it, you will see a "good performer".



Besides the fact that the audience should be enjoying the show (something that would seem fairly obvious) I don't know how you can judge someone from a video. I will allow for the fact that it is aspect, but beyond that, who knows if the video was "doctored" or the audience stacked in the performers favor. Chris Angel would be a perfect example of my point here. Chris's audiences seem to have genuine responses nevermind the fact that in some cases at least, those reactions are taped from other moments with different stimuli.

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On 2011-05-20 11:53, Bobby Maverick wrote:
I'm saddened because of labels, and I'm saddened by those who will not let them go, or try and bring them back into discussions because they've run out of things to say. So, lets get an old argument started over gain! And a pointless one at that!!!! No thanks.


I guess one of the best ways to keep your name out there is to create controversy. Here's a question..what if nobody cares about the controversy anymore? What if most of us have moved on? What about those that just want to learn? Now where's your juice?

It's hard to get a fish to bite on old bait.

A dear friend said to me a while back "If nobody has anything good to say, people will listen to who talks the loudest." I said to him "Yeah, but what happens when somebody does have something good to say? Doesn't it take away the noise, and the nonsense?" He said "I hope so, but its hard to talk over the noise sometimes..." I guess we shall see...

Sooner or later folks will open their eyes and hearts and see what's been said and done to them...and their gonna be upset. Why? Because they thought they had to make a choice when they didn't. They were told there were sides. There arent. They were led to believe that one is bad and the other is good. Not true. Both good.
This is how wars happen. Sometimes, enemies are CREATED.
I don't want any enemies. I want to work, and leave it better than I found it...its all I got.


Here's a simple question for you Bobby, who are "they"? For, either you prefer to avoid conflict by naming "them" (in which case why raise the matter at all), or you are creating a "straw-man" (so you can capitalize on the fact that you are seen as above the fray). I don't know anyone indulging in "labels" as you put it, but I'm open for correction in this regard. However, even if there are such people out there, there's nothing wrong with labels per se, unless they're inaccurate. Anyway it doesn't seem ethical to me to criticize others without giving them the opportunity to address your allegations by not naming them. Never mind the fact that I don't know anyone seeking out controversy just to keep their name at the forefront of everyone's mind. Seems a rather clumsy way to achieve name recognition, no to mention negative associations with that name.

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On 2011-06-05 22:48, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Getting back on point...

...Be sure the guy you're talking to or is doing all the talking is actually good at what he says he does...


This may be an overactive imagination on my part but here you seem to hint at who you think "they" are that creates the controversy of which you are standing above. Again, who are "they"? Why don't you pony up and just name who you consider to be purveying inaccurate information?

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On 2011-10-27 08:58, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Devious, I can see you're newer to this and relate on a somewhat novice level, but you are right it does take dedication. Only, I think the way you are referring to it is on a much smaller scale.

The dedication and study I'm talking about has almost nothing to do with weather or number of people. It has to do with seeking out the very best material and teaching tools you can find and being focussed on being as good as you can possibly be while honoring thise tools and materials.

The day to day grind on the pitch is what it is.


Now this post just seems to belie what your initial thread starter was all about. Who are you to determine conclusively and authoritatively at what point Devious is in his development without so much as video? I'm not meaning to be provocative here, just following the direction of your own reasoning.

You say there are no "camps" or "sides" out there and to paraphrase you (perhaps inaccurately), there seems to be only one way, your way: the way that is "good". Everyone that disagrees with you either is a novice, or has an axe to grind against you and/or your friends. I'm not saying this is the case, just my perception here so if I am wrong, my apologies in advance.

I look forward to your reply.

Best to you and yours.
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I will stay positive. I wont tell you to work Eduardo. These forums Are for posting lots, streets are for working. posts should happened here. Discusions happen on the pitch. Lick on.


Stay positive is good to be a busker... BREATHE... do not crucifie internet foruns... my father have bees and birds, my mother have flowers, one friend of mine colects porn magazines and ligthers, I like internet foruns and italian movies... you know all human beeing need to be entertained in their spare time, its what we do here... we talk, we learn and so on... so please do me a favour. Do not tell this guys specialy the ones with 10000 posts to go to the street learn/work/discusse... you are wasting your time... and you are not doing what you pray... Smile is one of the greatest gifts in the world... look in the mirror, SMILE and take that to your audiences... there are performers that don't even know what a real smile is... hope you could find some inspiring thing, detail, book, post, idea... in this forum... look to everything with positive thougth, you will atract positive energy... do not take what I wrote before to serious, I'm a clown, you know, like BOZO... and by the way, I only lick what I like... Smile
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I have learned tons from Reading magiccafe forums. as well as others. theres a lot of nonsense, but some is awesome. entertaining? yes! always. I wasnt over the top positive that night. I guesse, if my math is correct, I'm about three percent negative on these forums, which makes me 97 percnt positivein my posting. wish I had those stats in real life! I lwish you all the very best, and I love what we do! Peace... and ill see you guys in the streets.. than you can see my facial expresiion when I smile and say hello!
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I am an appreciator of diplomacy. Bobby has more diplomacy than most. Some spat for sport. Jason is pretty spot on with his stats. Keep positive and focus on the beauty in life no matter how much someone points out the foul smell. Share that love through your shows and report anything you don't like on your facebook page. Ron Paul!
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On 2011-10-28 17:50, Eric Evans wrote:
A couple of observations:

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On 2011-05-19 11:36, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Keep an open an open mind. don't buy into one mode of thinking....don't feel pressed because you do any style of show and others do something different.

Study everything you can from everyone that is successful. I don't mean success in money but they actually have a good show, whether its with a table or without it. don't get caught up thinking one way is wrong and another is right. This only leads to having a closed mind, and probably a terrible show. The evidence speaks for itself if you watch the videos that are posted...



Now I have no problem with this advice other than using video as the exclusive abiter. In "don't get caught up thinking one way is wrong and another is right" is good advice. Do you follow it yourself?

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On 2011-05-19 11:36, Bobby Maverick wrote:

Here's a way to tell if the show is good... Listen to the audience in the video, watch their faces. Look at their reactions. I don't mean when someone keeps saying "say yeah!" and they do. I mean the genuine responses. (If there are any.)If there is amazement, laughter and real happiness then I think there's a great chance you're watching a good performer.
I don't know what you think is "good", and you don't know what I think is "good", but I can tell you it shouldn't matter, because it's what the audience thinks that matters!!!
Look for genuine response and happiness, if you find it, you will see a "good performer".



Besides the fact that the audience should be enjoying the show (something that would seem fairly obvious) I don't know how you can judge someone from a video. I will allow for the fact that it is aspect, but beyond that, who knows if the video was "doctored" or the audience stacked in the performers favor. Chris Angel would be a perfect example of my point here. Chris's audiences seem to have genuine responses nevermind the fact that in some cases at least, those reactions are taped from other moments with different stimuli.

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On 2011-05-20 11:53, Bobby Maverick wrote:
I'm saddened because of labels, and I'm saddened by those who will not let them go, or try and bring them back into discussions because they've run out of things to say. So, lets get an old argument started over gain! And a pointless one at that!!!! No thanks.


I guess one of the best ways to keep your name out there is to create controversy. Here's a question..what if nobody cares about the controversy anymore? What if most of us have moved on? What about those that just want to learn? Now where's your juice?

It's hard to get a fish to bite on old bait.

A dear friend said to me a while back "If nobody has anything good to say, people will listen to who talks the loudest." I said to him "Yeah, but what happens when somebody does have something good to say? Doesn't it take away the noise, and the nonsense?" He said "I hope so, but its hard to talk over the noise sometimes..." I guess we shall see...

Sooner or later folks will open their eyes and hearts and see what's been said and done to them...and their gonna be upset. Why? Because they thought they had to make a choice when they didn't. They were told there were sides. There arent. They were led to believe that one is bad and the other is good. Not true. Both good.
This is how wars happen. Sometimes, enemies are CREATED.
I don't want any enemies. I want to work, and leave it better than I found it...its all I got.


Here's a simple question for you Bobby, who are "they"? For, either you prefer to avoid conflict by naming "them" (in which case why raise the matter at all), or you are creating a "straw-man" (so you can capitalize on the fact that you are seen as above the fray). I don't know anyone indulging in "labels" as you put it, but I'm open for correction in this regard. However, even if there are such people out there, there's nothing wrong with labels per se, unless they're inaccurate. Anyway it doesn't seem ethical to me to criticize others without giving them the opportunity to address your allegations by not naming them. Never mind the fact that I don't know anyone seeking out controversy just to keep their name at the forefront of everyone's mind. Seems a rather clumsy way to achieve name recognition, no to mention negative associations with that name.

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On 2011-06-05 22:48, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Getting back on point...

...Be sure the guy you're talking to or is doing all the talking is actually good at what he says he does...


This may be an overactive imagination on my part but here you seem to hint at who you think "they" are that creates the controversy of which you are standing above. Again, who are "they"? Why don't you pony up and just name who you consider to be purveying inaccurate information?

Quote:
On 2011-10-27 08:58, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Devious, I can see you're newer to this and relate on a somewhat novice level, but you are right it does take dedication. Only, I think the way you are referring to it is on a much smaller scale.

The dedication and study I'm talking about has almost nothing to do with weather or number of people. It has to do with seeking out the very best material and teaching tools you can find and being focussed on being as good as you can possibly be while honoring thise tools and materials.

The day to day grind on the pitch is what it is.


Now this post just seems to belie what your initial thread starter was all about. Who are you to determine conclusively and authoritatively at what point Devious is in his development without so much as video? I'm not meaning to be provocative here, just following the direction of your own reasoning.

You say there are no "camps" or "sides" out there and to paraphrase you (perhaps inaccurately), there seems to be only one way, your way: the way that is "good". Everyone that disagrees with you either is a novice, or has an axe to grind against you and/or your friends. I'm not saying this is the case, just my perception here so if I am wrong, my apologies in advance.

I look forward to your reply.

Best to you and yours.


The only side, that I have chosen is the, "OUTSIDE"! It's okay that Bobby has never heard of me before reading my posts here. I never knew who he was either until now. I'm certain that his show is entertaining but his powers of discernment are CLEARLY lacking as to me.
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Ok, I think I need to give you all an apologise by my latest posts... I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that nasty expression, that some of you comented inderectly... you know what I mean, rigth? I promise I will never do it again... I'm very confused because I have to choose one side, rigth? and I don't know what I choose... I need help to make my choose... maybe I choose them... I don't know!!! I would like to tell you I will start to write a lot of posts in this place at least until I get expelled... because I really need to improve my english... so I ask you for some pacience, and make me use wikipedia and google translator... Peace and love boys and girls (and please have the balls to coment anything directly...)

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.... ... .... ..... ... ... ....... ......only fools argue with fools


"Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
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Neither, it's a tie by definition.
Have a great day amigo!
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