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Woland Special user 680 Posts 
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When I posted the question, I wasn't trying to get at a possible conflict between magicians and the government, although that is an interesting subject and I am enjoying the discussion. Another example of what I was trying to get at is this anecdote regarding the composer John Cage. Not quite the way I remember reading it in one of his books, but that was 40 years ago, and this may be a better version:
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"I certainly had no feeling for harmony, and Schoenberg thought that that would make it impossible for me to write music. He said, 'You'll come to a wall you won't be able to get through.' So I said, 'I'll beat my head against that wall.' " --John Cage Would you devote your life to bearing your head against a wall that blocked your progress in this art? Woland |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11047 Posts
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Woland
I have been put in the position of beating my head against the wall, and getting no where, so I divorced the b**ch. I took guitar lessons for years until I realized that there were far more gifted musicians than me starving, so I turned to juggling, comedy, and magic, because there was an honest buck to be made there.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2551 Posts
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On 2011-05-22 10:40, Vlad_77 wrote: I read in a history book that crime went way down under Vlad "The Impaler" and his enhanced enforcement procedures. 
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11047 Posts
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Yes Vlad show us your teeth so we can tell if you are the real Dracula.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5015 Posts
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On 2011-05-22 11:43, Jonathan Townsend wrote: It's been observed that the arts often are most interesting under oppressive regimes. Nice book by Gordon Rogoff about the theatre through the ages in this regard; I forget the name, maybe someone knows it.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16199 Posts
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Should be some good stuff about today then.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27122 Posts
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One could posit the boundaries of efficient socially acceptable discourse as a map of the society.
IE what ideas does the language easily describe and which take large constructs, what biological/social function are associated with what sort of affect in the language? That sort of map. As an example our society, notice the vagaries of "to know" - which does not easily distinguish between remembered personal experience, book learning, belief, inference and imagined/whim/presupposition.
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Woland Special user 680 Posts
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Jonathan,
Interesting observation. Makes me think of the difference between connaitre and savoir. But there are however a series of verbs that might be added . . . I ken, I reckon, I imagine, I suppose, etc . . . Woland |
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mahucharn Elite user 419 Posts
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On 2011-05-21 02:31, Andrew Musgrave wrote: I assume gambling would have to be illegal as well. If not, just do gambling routines... and the old fashion 3 Card Monte. |
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 2895 Posts
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On 2011-05-20 21:26, Woland wrote: You mean bring back the Inquisition? 
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
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Woland Special user 680 Posts
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Not exactly, George, but there are countries today where mentalists have been sentenced to death for sorcery.
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts
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Whatever happened to that guy?
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
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Woland Special user 680 Posts
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I'll have to look it up. There was some question in my mind whether he was actually in custody or had been sentenced in absentia.
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