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Just saw John Edward on the Wayne Brady Show this morning. I've never seen him before, so excuse me if my comments have been made before.

Overall, I was pretty impressed by him. His audience management is excellent, and he puts a lot of thought into preparing the audience for the cold reading and hot reading tidbits he throws out.

I think there is a lot to be learned from watching him. First of all, way before he does any reading, he "chats" with Wayne Brady about his "gift." A few of his favorite lines that prepare the audience are as follows:

  • All I do is pay attention to what's around us all the time. I just trained myself to look harder than most people.

  • They (the spirits, that is) are always 100% accurate. I'm not. If I fail, it's my fault in interpreting what they have to say. But they're accurate.

  • I was a skeptic too until i met a real psychic.

  • What I do isn't so strange. I'll bet even some of you have had dreams of loved ones who have passed on. That's kind of what I do.

  • It's amazing how people have psychic amnesia about the events in their lives. I'll tell someone something about their lives and then they'll say no it isn't true. I'll insist it is true, arguing with a complete stranger about their lives. A week later I'll get a phone call or email from the person telling me thay suddenly remembered something about their past, and it was what I had told them.


After he's set up the audience this way, he goes into his readings. He picks on an audience member, but then says he may be getting energy from the people sitting next to the audience member. He talks really fast and throws out stuff like "I'm sensing a lady who had a stroke." He goes on with her for a little while and as soon as he misses, he ignores her, telling her to sit down, and asks if anyone else responded to his prediction. He tells one woman that her husband and son have had an on-again, off-again relationship. Another woman he congraulates on a pregnancy or child or life changing celebration. He doesn't wait for a confirmation before he moves on. A few times he gets a more specific hit, like a son who was shot (although he had to fish to see if it was the husband or son who was shot). He hit on a mother who had cancer. He told one woman he was getting the name Carol. No response. Carol or Carl. No response. Carol, Carl, Cookie. No response. Cookie, some kind of name or nickname with two k sounds. Spectator says maybe Sticky? No says Edward and moves on. He ends sensing that the audience member he has standing has an involvement with stripping. When she laughs no, he says, not necessarily professionally. I sense a boa, the kind that you would use in a strip act. When the audience member denies this, he says I sense a photo of you with a boa around your neck. The spectator screams Yes, and he ends his reading there.

He's very quick, very personable, and it's easy to see why he's such a success. No center tears, no clipboards, it's just him and it appears to the audience that he's working without a net. It looks very pure.

I know there have been countless threads here about the ethics of the kind of show psychics like Edward do. I really don't want to get into that again in this thread. But maybe we can analyze his work and see what can help us make our own work stronger.

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What politicians do for publicity.

I'm surprised presidential candidate, John Edwards, would stoop so low to capitalize on the popularity of a psychic medium with a similar name: John Edward (without the 's').


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he puts a lot of thought into preparing the audience for the cold reading and hot reading tidbits he throws out.


It's this kind of assumption that lead to arguments...

Other mediums you may enjoy watching are Sylvia Browne, Rosemary Altea, and James Van Praagh. All make frequent TV appearances.

Also, don't overlook the many televangelists that are experts in audience management and presentation.

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Go, browse over to the evasons website. Downlaod their video clips. NOW that's unbelievable.
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What's the URL, Zodiac?

thx, BB Smile
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I'd love to hear a magical deconstruction of a televangelist's act.

Anyone know of one?
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Which video clips are those? Smile
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I think he means the 'promo' videos...?

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He's referring to their demo videos--on their website.
They're incredible.

As far as a televangelist act...do an internet search on Peter Popov along with key words Steve Shaw and Randi.
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Hi
I've given up on the Evasons.
C'mon, fellas. was it a joke or a marketing
thing? Smile
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On 2003-08-17 15:23, Brandon wrote:
He's referring to their demo videos--on their website.
They're incredible.

As far as a televangelist act...do an internet search on Peter Popov along with key words Steve Shaw and Randi.

Interestingly, despite Randi's expose of his faith healing activities back in the 80's, Popov's televangelist ministry is still going strong -- I recently caught his "act" on a late night BET broadcast! Smile
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To what are you referring as a joke or a marketing "thing"? Why would the Evason's market to bunch of mentalists? Can you not find the link yourself...

http://evason.com/show.html

With regards to DaveS comments...yes Popov is doing fine now, after he took some time to 'regroup' after being exposed. He claims he has a larger...more devoted following now than ever before. Not hard to believe at all.

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Well Brandon, I guess there's one born every minute. Not hard to believe but I just can't bring myself to it! What are they thinking? Or Not. The Evasons Rock. I like how natural it is. She says, "I'll just close my eyes".... No blindfold, Nothing. You just WANT her to succeed. Very Good. I'm not too sure about Edward but he does seem to prepare the audience pretty well.
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Nicholas,
James Randi wrote a book called "The Faith Healers" several years ago. It's a very good read. I see it's still available at amazon.com.

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I hear that Briang Gillis and sisuepahn use a great 2 person code. Its as close to mind reading as I have seen. I emailed a clip of a performance on tlc to brian gillis, he seems to be a great guy too.
As for the evasons, they seem to be awesome too, I just have never seen them perform outside the demo clip. Try downloading the college one, very cool!


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[quote]On 2003-08-18 16:48, Brandon wrote:
To what are you referring as a joke or a marketing "thing"? Why would the Evason's market to bunch of mentalists? Can you not find the link yourself...

http://evason.com/show.html

Hi Brandon
Thanks for the correct URL
No, I couldn't find it myself because I was given 3 wrong leads Smile
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So did you enjoy the link?
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LOL

I just read my post--and it didn't sound right. It sounded down-right rude--that wasn't how I meant it at all teejay!

Glad you found the link.

They are very incredible...another good link:
http://www.gillismagic.com/video.html

Enjoy!

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Any comments on John Edward?

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Are mentalists just naturally born Atheists or do they have so many methods up their sleeve that they are just skeptical about everything. Having started studying Stage Hypnosis I find the same kinds of references to televangelists from this group. There is such a thing as the supernatural and a connection between God and man. Not all of these people on telvision are doing an act. Calling it a Televangelist Act just seems so narrow minded of a thought pattern for a group that is supposed to be so open minded. Just my two cents.
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