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Been to several Ace's as well as a few other DIY stores. Then I drove to a Hobby Lobby and a Hobby USA. They both had smaller cuts of it. So I finally ordered it online like I should have from the start.

Do any of you have the new Oudin with the on off press button on the side? I figure a band clamp would fix it on. Then just turn it on and off from a main breaker switch on the power end.

I'm starting to get excited about this toy!
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Yes, mine has the on/off switch, and that is exactly how I control it.
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On 2012-08-31 13:14, Stephon wrote:
Yes, mine has the on/off switch, and that is exactly how I control it.


Wow that's some revolutionary thinking ..... On off switch! You should file a pattent. Smile. Just don't use anything already filed by pear ..... Er, I mean ..... Peach ..... Pomme de terre ....... That's I apple (nearly went with a pink lady joke).
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Okay, my questions showed a lack of savvy, but that is why I asked them.
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I would have thought that the chai needs not to be earthed. You probably don't want earthing until such point as you are ready for you big moment ..... The discharge .... Typically with people gasping (as sparks shoot, things light ..... Etc)

If you are earthed whilst charging happens any charge will dissipate .... (please note I am probably wrong .... Just wanted to gt a rude joke in)
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I'm half guessing and half remembering from high school electronics class so don't listen to hard but if the person in the chair is grounded, I think the charge won't build up. If, after the charge builds up, the person gets grounded, I think they end up fried.

It's funny, this forum. I never knew I needed this chair until I started thinking about it after reading this thread. My wife can never know about this forum.
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When she fins out you'll get moaned at ...... Well I do Smile
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Zagam, are you talking about the chair or your wife? Are you grounded?
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I'm not grounded in any sense of the word, but I suspect few reading this are. At least not grounded in a way the general population deems acceptable. And, really, isn't that where the fun starts?

Back to topic; are the Brill plans for this chair any good? Or are they *really* for info only? I really must make on now.
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They're vaguely sufficient, if I recall correctly. I built my first hot box, based on those plans. It works, but not as well as I'd like.

Of course, what I'd like, would cost at least 15K.
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Vague is a good word. I have the Abbots plans and they are very similar. This thread is all a fella needs.
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Here's an odd but sound question. Can the person sitting in the chair have metal on their costume or jewelry with out feeling sparks off it? I assume it wouldn't matter since it isn't grounded but I just ordered a costume with a ton of metal on it. I don't want the girl to be uncomfortable for beauty sake....
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The Oudin coil seems to be the most popular power source for the electric chair act nowadays. I'm sorry to say I haven't seen it in action so far. The only performer doing this act I know is an old friend of my uncle's, but he is old-fashioned and uses an electric chair built with a Model "T" coil. At every conference he attends, he could spend hours arguing that the Model "T" coil is still the best for this type of performance.
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I've had a couple Model T coils. With their age and history of use, it's now hard to find one that works well.

Oudins are comparatively easy to find, and do the job.
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On 2012-09-04 21:25, Rotten wrote:
I don't want the girl to be uncomfortable for beauty sake....


Pish would you please return to the convention .... More beauty less comfort when it comes to women's 'fashion' .....
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Modern day Spark coils are available from J C Whitney auto supply. these are better than the old wooden ones from Model T cars. they produce about 10 KV. The Violet wands produce from 10 to 50 KV depending on the adjustment. My first plans were from the UF grant illusion book and worked fine (spark coil). The Violet wands (available on Ebay)or the modern versions available from science supply houses or neon sign suppliers make for a better display. To get the big time effects like sparks from the fingertips, you gotta go big. I just got a 250 KV tesla coil. this baby will throw 24 in sparks!!! But I am having second thoughts about using it. You connect the top of the coil to the plate the girl is sitting on. The sparks shoot into the air from her thimble covered fingers (the arc is hot and the heat will burn) just as in the smaller versions (spark coil or Violet wand), the girl must be insulated from the ground, but in this case, about 30 inches above the ground (24 inch sparks). Yes the "skin effect" does take place and she feels nothing, but with the larger units, there are RF burns that occur inside the body to be concerned with. Also another factor is that of concern it the amount of RF radiation and it's effect on local electronics (phones, computers, pacemakers etc). When Tesla did it, these were not around to get shorted out. Will probably still use the big one, but only for background effect. Boy it is noissey!!!
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