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dynamiteassasin Inner circle Naval Air Facility, Atsugi, Japan 1158 Posts |
4 years in card magic and I still don't know how to do the Classic Pass. The first pass I learned is the Hermann Pass,it took only 2 days. Then the Turnover Pass. After knowing the basic mechanics of a turnover pass, I devised my own passes. It's better this way as for me. And it's easier to bring the bottom stock to the top rather than the top stock to the bottom.
If you want a thorough lesson on passes, Brad Burt and Kaufmann tapes are good. If you want a quickie lesson on passes visit http://www.ellusionist.com and look for the NINJA1 video. have fun! |
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liam-j-gilbert Regular user Leeds, England 121 Posts |
The pass is one of the more difficult sleights which isn't used very regularly but when it is used it is a beautiful move and very rewarding when you perform it flawlessly. The classic pass is a must... if you are worried about concealing it try moving the deck to the left as you close the halves together.. I find that it covers it better as themotion disorientates the spectator. The turnover pass is also a great move and easier to conceal. they are my two personal favourites.
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davidcartwright7142 New user 4 Posts |
I too am struggling with the classic pass, despite reading it in Royal Road and practising for a few months. I've tried the link for an instructional video that someone suggested earlier on, but I need to pass the test by answering some Q's. I think I have them right, but it's telling me I haven't. Anyone care to help me please ? These are my answers:
1) Ed Marlo invesnted Snap Change 2) A coin matrix uses four coins underneath playing cards 3) David Blaine levitated on his special using Balducci technique 4) Crazy mans handcuffs uses elastic bands 5)A chop cup is used to vanish objects Please help ! |
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abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
5 is a magnetic cup.
It seems like you have to use the link for the advanced section as well unless I was in such a hurry that I made a mistake the first time around. I'll see what is on the site and let you know. |
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King Of Pop Veteran user Estonia 392 Posts |
To Eddy. True the more methods you know, the more versatile you will be when performing your magic. This is handy when you should perform one trick twice to the same audition;)
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Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
Kaufman's On the Pass DVD has helped me out a LOT!
It is great if you can stand the terrible and redundant music.
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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Paul Rathbun Inner circle Michigan 2543 Posts |
I think the classic pass is the best. A riffle pass seems like it draws to much attention to the deck right after you've done your dirty work. This could make some spectators feel like they missed something.
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PapaG Special user 851 Posts |
Ken Krenzel's tape is the way to go for learning the pass.
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
I think Classic Pass is best in some situations and Riffle Pass is best in other situations.
If you want Pass after closing Ribbon Spread, I have Spread Closing Pass in which you change top portion and bottom portion while you are closing the spread. Best depend on the context of the trick. Hideo Kato |
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milamber Regular user California 130 Posts |
I was given the DVD "Pass with Care" by Pete Cassford a while back, which I think is a great primer for someone attempting to learn the pass. I own a few DVDs that 'teach' the pass, but this one is by far the best resource for it.
Just my $0.02. Steve |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
If you are interested in the pass I have some information on it on video at my web site in both my scrapbook video theater and my hidden theater.
It might be useful for members wanting to learn the pass.
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Samuel Special user Norway 831 Posts |
Actually, I prefer Ninja before Richard Kaufmann. It's a lot better teaching, a lot easier to follow and get the technique good.
Samuel
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martink65 New user vienna - austria - europe 87 Posts |
Which kind of pass is demonstrated by Michael Weber in den documentary Deceptive Practice - The Mysteries and Mentors of Ricky Jay at the 1:16:05 mark?
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
A good one.
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martink65 New user vienna - austria - europe 87 Posts |
Is there a name to it. A source teaching it?
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Jonmaddgician New user Perth, Western Australia 72 Posts |
15 years of card tricks, 12/13 years performing, 6/7 years working on my pass, & I'm only just starting to feel good enough about them to throw one in occasionally. Probably many a years to go, but hey magic's a journey aye? =P
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Haruspex New user 62 Posts |
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On Oct 20, 2020, martink65 wrote: It looks like a Hermann style pass, but done very smoothly. Notice that the rhythm at which the pass is done, matches the speed and style with which the cards are spread and handled before the pass is executed. |
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kShepher Elite user Washington, DC 470 Posts |
The Pass is one of those things magicians feel they MUST learn.
I did, and it's almost a rite of passage. It's not needed. That said, Dai Vernon suggested that you jog the lower packet forward to avoid that V that inevitably happens with the classic teaching. |
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thegreatscungilli Regular user 166 Posts |
Another vote for Daryll's encyclopedia of card sleights and his card reveals videos. He was a very good card worker and interestingly enough he says more than once that he does not go into the "Classic Pass" because it is hard to do well and there are many other ways to control a card that achieve the same result, most of which he demonstrates. I have to admit that I learned and practiced the classic pass years ago but have found that Daryll's point about many other ways to achieve the same result is true and I rarely use it now..One that I like is a Charlier cut with a break and a double or triple table cut a double under cut, or a couple of swing cuts. If you do it smoothly it can be quite deceptive and it is easier to learn than the classic pass.
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