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On 2011-06-18 16:44, Sock Puppet Monkey wrote:
I find it fascinating that Chessmann can see no wrong in anything but what I post.


That's not true, of course. I, in turn, was fascinated by the powerful drive within you that kept you following ML all over the Café, straining to be as insulting as you could.

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This is apparently a place were people come to argue, joke, cajole about all things magical. Sometimes, the jokes/humour don't translate online. Still, I find Mark's schtick a bit much and so when I give some back to him we find him unable to take it and his yes men appear. Why can Mark give it out and not take it? Note Mark's new strategy of ignoring my comments hoping I might go away. I will until he returns with more of his nonsense such as what he posted in the Gospel section about being a Reverend and being led by Satan. Now deleted by the way. Why also can Mark do everything in this post that he finds so abhorrent in Mr. Weber? The rudeness, the intolerance, the ego on and on without end. Quite a double standard for certain. What's sad about someone posting here and sharing their thoughts and ideas? Oh I know it's sad because you don't agree or like them. Some people prefer to say things like "Don't feed the troll." so that the conversation isn't further fuelled by more of the same. I take issue with being called a liar from someone who claims to have "evidence" that I received private messages so I could comment on this book. Isn't that really more sad that someone would say such nonsense that he knows to be patently false. I'd love to see this "evidence" that Mr. Lewis doesn't have. The monkey isn't waiting but it appears that the snake has slithered back off into his hole.


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The book is very good. you will find there a lot of important advices
no matter if you just began to do magic and mentalism or even if you do it for some years.
A lot food for toughts.
if you don't like something in the book, you can skip it, there is a lot of good stuff.

this is what I do here in the Café. I skip some of the names that are here just for the noise.


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Well, of course you would say that, old chap, wouldn't you? After all he has given you great praise and glory in the book. It has not gone unnoticed by me that he only says good things about PEA members and bad things about everybody else. I bet if he said a few negative things about you, you would get highly irritated and not love the book quite so much. Furthermore I have seen many of the PEA members he claims are so wonderful and without exception they have been bad to mediocre. It does tend to colour my opinion of his opinions you know.
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I always ask people that see my show to tell me what was wrong and what I need to improve.
I am happy when they say good things and I listen when they say other things.

I got my first critick from Ken Weber in the PEA meeting 15 years ago. ( he said I was very good ;-) )
And it was the first tim I meat Ken.

the subject here is not Mark Lewis or Lior manor,or anyone else. It is about a book.
and it is a very good book.

I am sure that Ken Weber can help you Mark to be a better performer, even you are so good , there are always
somethings to improve

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Don't be silly, Lior. I am MARK LEWIS and by dint of such have no need to improve. I learned a long time ago that perfection is in itself a lack of perfection. And I have no desire to improve anyway since I am nearly dead and it isn't worth the effort.

And you may well be able to listen to criticism. I wasn't arguing about that. I am merely saying that if he criticised you openly in a book rather than in person you wouldn't like it. I would still like to see Ken perform but of course he is clever enough to make sure there is no video footage of him anywhere and neither are there any old reviews of his work. Still, I shall take his word for it that he was once absolutely marvellous. After all it says so in his book so it must be true.

Incidentally I have now seen you work on You Tube.
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Don't be silly Mark
I want to learn from everyone all the time.
It's fun to learn .
I can also learn from you. (I just clean some of the remarks and I can find sometime something)

I saw that you say bad things about many people on the web. I think it is much worth then writing it in a book as you say.
The internet is forever... books are vanshing...

I saw Ken in action. He was very good ( I also told him what to improve ) Smile

Have fun here in the Café Mark. I see you are a VIP so you can talk the way you talk.

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Lior. In addition to being a VIP I am also the most banned person in the history of the magic Café. It is only because Steve Brooks finally recognised my genius that I am allowed to run amok among you. And it should be noted that I never attack anyone unless they attack me first.
Furthermore books will never vanish so you will be immortalised for all time in the Ken Weber book as being wonderful. But then Max Maven won't be because no doubt he is not a member of the PEA. Still he is being criticised in the book whether he likes it or not.

And the internet is a very temporary thing. Posts disappear and everyone forgets about them a few hours later. That is why I am still alive. And of course people can always come and defend themselves in the same way they cannot do so in a book.

I merely made a mild remark that I tried to like the book but couldn't quite manage it yet. Then a firestorm erupted. I am still looking at the book to see if I have missed something but I still haven't managed to like it yet. Don't worry, I will keep trying.

I'll tell you what. I know a very fine mentalist named Paul Pacific. He is much nicer and more objective than me and tends to say things are marvellous when he knows perfectly well they aren't. I know he hasn't read the book. I will lend it to him and get his opinion on the matter. He can then post his own thoughts about it which will of course be quite untrue but don't worry, I will tell you what he really thinks.

Paul, where are you?
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I admire Max Maven.
I wish I had his brain.
Max is a member of the PEA

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I am surprised to hear that Max is a member of the PEA. I had always understood that he wasn't. Mind you I bet he wasn't when that book was written.
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On 2011-06-19 09:06, Mark Lewis wrote:
I'll tell you what. I know a very fine mentalist named Paul Pacific. He is much nicer and more objective than me and tends to say things are marvellous when he knows perfectly well they aren't. I know he hasn't read the book. I will lend it to him and get his opinion on the matter. He can then post his own thoughts about it which will of course be quite untrue but don't worry, I will tell you what he really thinks.

Paul, where are you?


I'm here but not sure anybody cares what I have to say about the matter.
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You are right, Paul. I am sure nobody cares. You can go back to bed now. Still, I know that you haven't read the book so I am curious to hear what your take is on it since, as you know, I am just a crabby old man who only likes books written before 1954. Do you wish to borrow the book? I know you ploughed through John Booth's great book "Forging Ahead in Magic" and didn't like it but you were quite enthusiastic over the Darwin Ortiz book which I quite like too.

And of course you met Ken Weber in person and according to you, had some kind of argument with him over PEA membership or something I know not what. You claimed he said you were very good which of course is another reason I am cynical about his book. Still since the book is mentalism orientated (although would apply to everybody) and you are a mentalist of some charm and distinction perhaps you may like to look at it and give your opinion which I will translate if necessary. For example if you say the book is "Fabulous!" I will know you are being insincere and haven't read a word of it. If you say, "It gets the job done" I will know you mean it is absolute crap and should never have been published. If you say, "It is very good indeed" I will know that you really mean "It is not very good at all". I have been in this awful country so long that I am able to translate what the natives really mean. Canadians will never say anything is crap and they will give standing ovations up here for sneezing.

Anyway, who wants to hear what Paul has to say about the book? You will, at least, get a more optimistic view of the work than you will from me. Mind you, he won't like that bit where Ken criticises that common thing where you throw a paper ball into the audience to select a spectator. Oddly enough I take Ken's side on this and coincidentally argued with Paul concerning the matter quite recently somewhere or other.

But let us find out if anyone wishes to hear what Paul has to say. Does anyone wish to hear his opinion? He hopes you will say "no" because he is too lazy and having to review a book would distract him from admiring his own feet. The only reason he liked Corinda's book is because it has the word "steps" in the title.

But I shall ask anyway. Does anyone wish to hear his opinion about Maximum Entertainment?
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I'm confused about one of your comments Mark Lewis. Throughout the thread you indicate that it's in very bad form to ask an audience member their name. The strange thing is that in the following video (that was posted on another thread) we see (a very competent performer who strangely enough looks quite a bit like you) do just that. Could you clarify your position on this point so that we might be enlightened by your awesomeness?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlN3dR_al7Q&feature=related

SPM

ps. My daughter made me a very lovely sock puppet monkey for Father's day and I've named him after you!
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Mark already answered that in an earlier post on this thread:

"Another thing I am uncomfortable with is this nonsense of asking a spectator's name on stage. I usually do but hate doing it."

Best-

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Thanks for sharing that Bob. I wonder why he would do something he hates or doesn't agree with. Seem a bit odd doesn't it? I should think that I have some reason/motivation for everything I do on stage. I will be interested to hear what further thoughts he has on this.

SPM

ps. we needed to change the sock puppet's name as we found "Mark" wasn't cuddly enough. Besides isn't a "mark" someone a grafter/grifter targets?
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It seems that Paul has one vote. Anybody else want to hear what Paul has to say? Do not underestimate him just because he likes to talk about his feet all the time and spends all his days in the sun doing nothing in particular. You would have to go a long way to find a mentalist with as much showmanship as he has.

I shall see him tomorrow and lend him the book. If he can plough through the Ortiz book he can plough through this one which is far faster to read. Then we will get his verdict on the matter. He will probably be too lazy to type out his response here but he may tell me and I shall tell you.
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I'm interested in Paul's opinion too. The more the merrier.

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