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Saw that thread when I searched. Was looking for more
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Ive got this. I recommend it. Good thinking behind it. Lots of uses for it. Not for timid performers.
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Why is this not for timid performers? It can be performed over the phone, right?

Maybe the failure rate is high?

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Ive got this. I recommend it. Good thinking behind it. Lots of uses for it. Not for timid performers.
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I purchased this. Some good thinking.

You don't get to duplicate the drawing though, just FYI.
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Not for timid performers. It relies on the secret use of venomous snakes, so you have to be confident enough to act your way through the mortal danger. If the spectator becomes aware of the snakes, the effect will fail. (note: it may be possible to use scorpions instead).
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Oh, so this book is for snake charmers then, huh?

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Not for timid performers. It relies on the secret use of venomous snakes, so you have to be confident enough to act your way through the mortal danger. If the spectator becomes aware of the snakes, the effect will fail. (note: it may be possible to use scorpions instead).
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I've seen this performed 6-7 times now and the impact is solid but you need confidence, and an ability to read, at least to some extent. I'm aware of the method, and I will be ordering it myself. The risk you run is actually saying too much and stepping just a little too far. Less is more on this one.
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Bought it, sold it. It does what it claims, (I suppose. I would never spend the time trying to perfect it) but is impractical. It seems an alternative to other easier things to do. It seemed to me that it would be easy for many to be bad at it, easy to flub slightly then have it be transparent, etc. In my case, better a weaker more solid thing, and something I can repeat every show.

I would think that it would be great for people who like jazz mentalism and that sort of thing...

But then, there is massive strength in the subtlest of things, so who's to judge. Ephemeral Mentalism is very strong.

However, if you want solid never-fail reliable and repeatable stuff, this might not be best for you. That would make other buyers happy.
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Agreed, Tom. But I wouldn't call it "Jazz Mentalism." That's a phrase that I coined myself back in the early 90's to describe a very specific approach to Q&A. It's based on moving freely between alternate, yet completely solid, methods.

I was a bit saddened when others started using the term in a much different way. I's not about making things up as you go along as some seem to think. It's just like actual jazz- the melody is always there beneath the surface.
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Thanks, Bob. That was about exactly opposite of what I meant.
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I know that, Tom. I'm just trying to preserve the original meaning of the phrase. Since I coined the phrase it's been lifted to be used as a title for a card trick and is widely used to convey something that is almost exactly opposite to what I originally intended.
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I know that, Tom. I'm just trying to preserve the original meaning of the phrase. Since I coined the phrase it's been lifted to be used as a title for a card trick and is widely used to convey something that is almost exactly opposite to what I originally intended.


Lack of a better phrase might be a reason for that, can you offer another way to refer to the "Improvisation" kind of mentalism?
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How about "Improvisational Mentalism?" Smile

As I said in my original definition of the term, jazz isn't entirely improvisational. The melody is always there somewhere and remains constant. And much "jazz" music isn't really improvised at all and is played almost exactly as written.
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"makin' sh^t up mentalism"?
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It's worth also distinguishing between improvisational mentalism and "too lazy to script it, but I'm sure it'll be fine if I make it all up on the fly" mentalism.
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In traditional jazz, the melody can be really far away! But the improvisation has to follow the chord charts.
It's like a structure you have to follow.

In Real Telepathy, the structure is always the same but you have to think on your feet and adapt your script to the situation. In truth, it's not an every day effect. I believe, it's more for special occasions after other sure fire effects.

How about "Free Jazz Mentalism" for effect with no or little structure?
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On Feb 3, 2015, mastermindreader wrote:
I know that, Tom. I'm just trying to preserve the original meaning of the phrase. Since I coined the phrase it's been lifted to be used as a title for a card trick and is widely used to convey something that is almost exactly opposite to what I originally intended.

When did you coin the phrase Bob?
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Read his posts on this thread, he tells you...
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How about "Freeform mentalism" as a serious suggestion? (based on Peter Turner's dvd set)
Much easier to say and sounds nice.

Freeform definition:
Created or done in any way you choose : not required to have particular patterns or forms.
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