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When I go to my local butchers to buy some beef I may well ask him which cut of the animal it is from; whether it is fresh; and whether it is suitable for my intended use of it.


The difference is that instead of buying some beef, you are buying a secret.

Why don't you state your intended use and then ask the butcher if it is suitable? Then, without giving away the beef for free, the butcher can tell you if it's suitable (he would know), you can buy the beef, and be on your way.
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How would I even have an intended use for a mentalism product when there is no indication of what it is/does/nature of compromise? It is possible to give sufficient informtion for someone to make an informed decision to purchase without giving away the secret. People do it all the time. But since you pressing me I will play along...

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You ask someone in the group to think of a memory.

I would really like to perform an effect where a spectator genuinly gets a free choice of one of their own genuine memories. Will this effect fit my purposes?
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On 2011-06-27 14:40, Davit Sicseek wrote:
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if it doesn't sound like your cup of tea...dont order it...simple as


The whole reason for the discussion is that there isn't enough information to determine whether it is 'your cup of tea' or not. Hence the questions - and answering questions is not an onerous task when it comes to interacting with a community in which you are selling. Why you'd feel the need to congratulate Paul on his ability to answer these questions in a gentlemanly manner surprises me. When I go to my local butchers to buy some beef I may well ask him which cut of the animal it is from; whether it is fresh; and whether it is suitable for my intended use of it. Polite answers to these questions is what a prospective customers deserves. I don't feel the need to congratulate my butcher on not being a moron.


David your post may be part of the reason this is being sold as a limited offering. Paul and Colin have a superb reputation. My guess is they will sell out just off their reputation. In other words, having earned the reputation for excellence they do not need in a limited offering to answer question after question. Some questions maybe legitimate but many I see posted on the Café are just looking to learn the method. The indivduals Paul and Colin are marketing to really don't need much information---they trust these two. Not blindly but from past experience. With a limited offering and based upon the material I have already purchased from Paul and Colin, everyone will be happy. They are happy---they sell out and can focus on the creative side. The buyers of the book are happy (I am assuming it is the quality of their past work). Well, I guess maybe not everyone is happy---those who do not buy it and later can not get it except maybe at a premium may be unhappy.
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Davit is right! I've seen Paul perform and he does absolutely butcher those routines. That's the memory I was thinking of.

Davit, you are good my friend!! :-D
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When I dine out I go somewhere I've been before. I know that I'll be left with a sweet taste in my mouth rather than a bitter one. If I'm trying a new dish I don't ask the chef about the ingredients or preparation, I trust his expertise to provide a quality meal. I may pay over the odds but fine food costs that little bit more.

I just hope that when I can afford to dine out again chefs Brook & McLeod still have this on the menu, if so I look forward to an enjoyable meal.

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You ask someone in the group to think of a memory.

I would really like to perform an effect where a spectator genuinly gets a free choice of one of their own genuine memories. Will this effect fit my purposes?


That would be nice to know. I've been disappointed by effects in the past where you essentially give them an option from a bunch of simulated fake memories to choose from.
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On 2011-06-27 15:15, Davit Sicseek wrote:

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You ask someone in the group to think of a memory.

I would really like to perform an effect where a spectator genuinly gets a free choice of one of their own genuine memories. Will this effect fit my purposes?


So to answer Davits question?
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Just to tantalise those who are on the fence and excite those who have pre-ordered, here are some words of praise for 'This Way Up' from a rather excellent person:


“What you hold in your hand is not merely a trick or an effect. It is further more a framework, a framework upon which you can place your own ideas, personality, presentation, and meaning. It is your miracle. Guard and treasure it. This work leaves my mind spinning, and giddy.”

Marc Salem



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On 2011-06-27 15:31, takeachance wrote:

So to answer Davits question?



Your answer can in Colin's post, halfway down on page five of this thread.

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That's an answer a lawyer would give, but thanks for the reply anyway. I sense you don't want to be clear on the issue.
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Thanks for your input J Prager, very but thoughtful, but this is a discussion forum so I'd like to discuss things seeing it was put up on the Café. My decision to buy it or not need not concern you
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That will probably be the outcome. I suspect the hype distracts me from the fact that both authors do have excellant credentials in the industry, I have previous works of theirs. I hope this lives up to my expectations of them
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Like we've said, the method is meant to be a simple one, BUT it has many layers of psychology on top of it which makes the effect so strong. You need to read the entire book I'm afraid to understand exactly what is happening. Like I've said OF COURSE there is something happening. It is that something you are paying for the rights to understand and use in your own shows.

There are a few more quotes on the books web site from people I love and respect.

This is the sort of routine performers are going to us and immediately see where it improves a number of things which just takes that 'something classic' and revolutionises it.

Do you know what, if you can't work out what it is from what we've said... Sorry! But obviously we're not going to tell you what it is. The IT is the easy part, it's how we use the IT!

I was in London on Saturday night performing in a comedy club where most of the comedians were having a tough night. THIS is the only routine I performed in 15 minutes. Not only did it have everyone engaged, laughing and involved from the start, it absolutely brought the house down to the point where the compere said "You actually saved this evening!" That is the strength of this routine!

I obviously love it to bits, it is my baby, but when you understand it, you will make it your own and achieve similar if not better reactions!

...Exciting times!

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Any nude photos? scratch 'n sniff?

isn't this as easy as "look in bank account, decide if you want it...buy it if you do"? never really got the whole "why are you charging x amount" thing...

buy it if you like the sound of it...if you don't...leave it alone...
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Alright I hate to do this...but....

I understand that we need a little hype to sell a product but When Colin said....

"I was in London on Saturday night performing in a comedy club where most of the comedians were having a tough night. THIS is the only routine I performed in 15 minutes. Not only did it have everyone engaged, laughing and involved from the start, it absolutely brought the house down to the point where the compere said "You actually saved this evening!" That is the strength of this routine!"

I just tire of this type of hype.

The reality is simple. Either you are a good entertainer or you are not. There is no one effect that is going to make you a GOD.(which is what is implied by this post.) Is Colin saying he is so good...or the trick is so good?

Probably, most likely, it is a combination of both.

If only I could go back through all the posts in Penny and find how many said....This effect will make you a star, a reputation maker, double your income, etc. I bet it would be a lot of posts.

And I also think...just in the back of my mind...if I had such an effect....why would I sell it?????
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I do believe it is both too!

But the routine is SO simple and direct... it, like I said above, "allows you to make it your own and achieve similar if not better reactions"

Hope that helps Richard!

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I never knew you could do mind reading with IT..I know all your secrets now Colin. You're going down. I'm taking this mentalism world by storm!

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