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CardC Regular user San Miguel de Allende, Mexico 158 Posts |
I was wondering what kinds of reactions have you guys gotten from this effect? As a magician it seems almost too simple, but usually those are the effects that crush the pulp out of layfolks...
I want to try performing this but I want to get it more natural first. Just curious
be happy
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Dr. JK Inner circle Sandusky, OH 1191 Posts |
The reactions are awesome. And don't be afraid to give people explicit instructions on counting out the cards in their hand (if you know what I mean). They'll never remember. Trust me.
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
I once did the effect as my opening trick working a party at realty firm, simply naming the card got once person to curse loudly, the multiple revelations afterward simply increased the overall reaction from the whole audience, leading to some very enthusiatic applause. Of course I also started my card stuff with a deck that was conveniantly handed to me that was sealed and wrapped in celophane. So that my have helped a bit.
Nice thing about overkill, is you can stack the deck for Vernon's poker deal, and do overkill without disturbing the stack on the bottom.
Matthew Olsen
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Mike Maturen Inner circle Michigan's Beautiful Sunrise Side 2726 Posts |
CardC....
You are correct that it is often the "simple" tricks that fry the audience...just look at the Sponge Bunnies for crying out loud! We as magicians seem to want to look at method. Let's face it...we are geeks (but at least we're "cool" geeks!). I would much rather find a simple method for a great effect, simply so I can concentrate on presentation. A technically great trick perfectly performed can still suck in a spectator's mind if it doesn't connect on some level with them. That's why they call us entertainers!
Mike Maturen
World of Wonder Entertainment The Magic and Mayhem of Mike Maturen 989-335-1661 mikematuren@gmail.com AUTHOR OF "A NEW DAWN--Weekly Wisdom From Everyday Life" member: International Magician's Society |
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Louis Lu New user 58 Posts |
It's a great trick, and I love it.
Beware of those over analytical people though. I performed it for someone who refuses to be fooled or entertained by magic. Once he reasoned the selection was forced, the multiple revelations lose their impact. |
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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On 2011-08-11 18:01, Louis Lu wrote: Obviously Louis would know this, but, if the force fails, do another effect. Also, if you ascertain that one of those overly analytical people are there, do one of those effects where the conditions imposed are SO impossible that when you fry him, you have him and the rest of the audience PRIMED for anything you want to do to them - magically of course. Overkill is a powerful effect but it is one of those - at least for me - where I pick my spots. This effect IMHO requires no interruptions so I would never do it in an environment such as a restaurant. But YMMV. Ahimsa, Vlad |
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Blueroyalty Loyal user 280 Posts |
Louis if you know the type of person they are, why would you even perform for them?
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Louis Lu New user 58 Posts |
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On 2011-08-12 01:09, Blueroyalty wrote: Well, I didn't know he was that type, and yes, lesson learned. This person also happens to be my manager, and after performing a couple of effects for him and seeing his reaction, I won't be showing him any card tricks in the near future. |
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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On 2011-08-12 18:58, Louis Lu wrote: Haha, I would LOVE a shot at your manager!! Analytical people (engineers are a GREAT example) are easy prey man!! Throw in a few red herrings and you got 'em. MMDV!! Ahimsa, Vlad |
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J.Warrens Inner circle Canada 1098 Posts |
I had an engineer nail me on Card Warp once. He said "that's easy..." and then immediately told me in great detail how it worked - correctly.
Thankfully, he did this in private when nobody else was around. He said that his job granted him a keen eye for spatial relationships. LOL Anyways, back on track: Overkill, is great - but as has been mentioned already, you have to pick your audience right for this one. Wait a minute..what am I talking about? That actually applies to ANY effect in magic...! Cheers. |
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Calvin826 Special user 536 Posts |
Amazing effect- in fact, I HATE how such a self-working procedural gets better reactions than the knuckle-busting stuff I do.
That being said, my presentation is a bit different than the original- I mixed up the order of the reveals a bit, threw in a red herring, added a nice kicker and raised the stakes in the form of a small wager. Never fails, and I haven't been called out once. |
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Fantastic effect
Never underestimate 'self-workers'. |
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NotThatLarson Regular user 113 Posts |
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm not sure what effect we are talking about here.
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alondon Regular user 186 Posts |
Can someone give me the reference for overkill
Thanks |
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
It can be found on The Stars Of Magic dvd's volume 1 and I believe its also in Paul Harris's Art Of Astonishment books.
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ejohn Special user Atlanta 720 Posts |
For those who think Overkill may be a little, ah, overkill, check out Under Overkill on YouTube.
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
I checked out Under Overkill and all I saw was a tutorial by someone who's constantly exposing other magicians work ( which I detest ) going back to the actual effect though personally I didn't like it as it had very unnatural card handling and isn't a patch on the original routine.
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terrillific Loyal user San Antonio, TX 292 Posts |
Here is Paul Harris teaching Overkill. https://youtu.be/vGkKWy4EZWM
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
I'm sure Paul Harris would be pleased to see his work being exposed on youtube !!
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On Jul 20, 2016, ejohn wrote: No. Please no. |
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