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Was the ne-generation zombie discussed? hocus pokus magic.
"This is the next generation of zombie! Over two years in the making, this zombie ball can be inspected BEFORE and AFTER your performance. The only thing your spectators will see is a beautiful silver sphere.

As a matter of fact, with this new approach to the zombie you will not be limited to only floating a sphere. You can also float a Cell Phone, a cup, a can, etc.

The freedom to float other items is great for anyone wanting to do something different. This will leave you open for a wide Varity of presentation possibilities. Everything you need to get started is included in the price.

Unlike most zombie balls on the market, this beautiful sphere;
Does NOT come apart
Does NOT have those ugly seems
Does NOT have a hole in it
Does NOT use Magnets
Does NOT use sticky stuff
Does NOT use thread, or string
Best of all, this Is NOT a balloon...

Includes:
1 Zombie Ball
1 Gimmick
Foulard"
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Ian..

go back and read the thread.. this was discussed at some lenght in the middle of the now incredibly hijacked and off topic thread.

My repsonse to it is just below that..


and the rest is interesting.. but completely off topic.

Winnebago tends to do that to threads.. even when they start to lead to interesting places..

This thread should be locked as it seems to be unfixably off topic.
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Charlotte Pendragon now opens the second act of her show with this,
not a zombie, nor ungimmicked, she still does a nice job with it.
Yeah, let's lock this topic, I agree.
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On 2011-07-15 12:28, Marc Christopher wrote:
Hi all,

I have to say, I've always hated the Zombie ball. I guess I have seen too many bad performances that looked like... well, a ball on a stick. Smile Funnily, the thought never occurred to me that that same routine could be done well... without any gimmick... purely by mime techniques.
Then I saw Raymond Crowe. And after so many years that routine finally got me fascinated. I have a strong background in mime and acting myself and still happen to hate the "gimmicky" version. So, I would definitely like to work on a gimmick-less routine similar to Crowe's.

I have been reading a lot about the Zombie here in the Café and have looked at a lot of sites selling different versions of the ball: Uday, Vernet, Viking, Morrissey, Rings N Things, Ickle Pickle... (am I missing any brands?). Unfortunately, most threads at some point turn to the Zombie gimmick.

But which of these makes is best suited for Raymond Crowe's routine? I read that the Morrissey ball is not so well suited (supposedly, the hole is too shallow). Is that true? The TNR ball, on the other hand, seems okay, supposedly. The latter is quite expensive, however. What about Viking and Ickle Pickle?

Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Marc


Tommy Wonder said:"Unfortunately Zombie ball is very easy to do...bad". I think it's not a bad trick at all,but too many bad performances ruined it a bit.
Personally I worked on Zombie for many years,and now I'm proud to say that I have a very good and entertaining zombie ball routine. Audience loves it. Regarding Your question,I think that the best zombie to use in this case should be about 4 inches in diameter:not too big(hard to handle) and not too small(difficoult to see in a big theatre),very light to be lifted easily and absolutely dent-proof.
My advice is to go to a magic shop and try them all. When You find one with approximately these charateristics,buy it.
Hope this helps.
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If the zombies on the market don't fit your requirements, why not make one from a suitable ball?
Doesn't anyone have a drill or a Dremel?
It doesn't take Tommy Wonder levels of engineering skill to make the necessary adaptations.
I frequently find that I have to make my own props for my act when the marketed items are not suitable or don't exist.
Surely this is part of the fun of being a magician?

Make one!

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Neal is right. I made some zombies with christmas balls. You can choose size,colours,wheight and whatever You want!
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Any info about this at all?

ZOMBIE , NEXT GENERATION.
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I wrote to Viking about their $45 imported zombie and asked about the size of the female part and if it was similar to the diameter of a nickel, which would work with my big hands. The answer was yes. And I was in the garden department at Walmart, they have some nice gazing balls with magic potential. So many balls, so little time.
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On 2012-03-03 23:56, that'sCool wrote:
Any info about this at all?

ZOMBIE , NEXT GENERATION.


Yes there is a forum for this ball. Do a search.
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On 2012-03-03 23:56, that'sCool wrote:
Any info about this at all?

ZOMBIE , NEXT GENERATION.


Yes there is a forum for this ball. Do a search.

I did and nothing came up.

Thanks for the suggestion Smile
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At risk of returning to the original topic, if you're interested in another foulardless, (though not gimmickless) zombie method, you might check out the second volume of my Zombie Re-Animated DVDs. The method is similar to Ian's, but you can go directly into a regular zombie routine afterwards, if you so choose.

Raymond Crowe and I are good friends and I highly recommend his aforementioned Naked Zombie DVD. I use parts of it in my own routine.

Interestingly, the link Ian mentioned above is also from my second DVD, though I think her performance is beautiful and I'm very glad to see someone using it. She didn't include the gimmick kicker at the beginning, but perhaps it's for the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgNz6VZPtU&feature=related

Also, if anyone is interested, I will be doing a Zombie workshop during the Abbott's convention this year.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......rum=31&2


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Jeb is the man!
If you can see him lecture live-- just do it!

His DVD set is encyclopedic in nature and just fantastic. If you know of me, you know I'm a fanatic on this topic, and my hat's always off to Jeb.

His handling along with Crowe’s leave nothing else to be desired in a non-gimmick performance.

(and FYI the New Generation is pure horse-pucky in my opinion.)

Magically,
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Very nice, Lawrens! Very magical!


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On 2011-07-16 06:50, Lawrens Godon wrote:
@Marc Christopher :
Have you considered trying some contact juggling move ?
When I do my routine people often think about it as a "floating ball" ^^
Here a are some moves (not a routine) I like to play with :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT_p7eRLppY
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I have discovered the best Zombie ball for gimmicked or gimmick-less routines. Unfortunately this quest requires the minds of our greatest scientists, millions of dollars, thousands of lives, and a NASA-like research and development effort. But for YOU faithful readers, and well everyone else on the Internet, I will disclose all.

First, get the 4, 6, or 8 inch gold or silver Dream Zombie from Fab Magic. Then throw away the supplied foulard and gimmick. Replace the rubber grommet with a one-inch office desk cable grommet. This will require some dremmel work and a little paint, but then you will have the world's best ultra light Zombie with a proper size hook up!

Then rebuild your own gimmick from scratch. This will take maybe two years, but the results will be well worth the effort. For the foulard try expensive patterned silks with an opaque cloth sewn to the other side, OK I admit this is about as hard as getting the ball right, send me a PM if you lose all hope.

And then you're done!
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Just found this possible chrome ball for possible use, if you care to make the adjustments yourself. They are only 3.54" and 2.87".

http://www.larocks.com/magic/ball_magic.htm
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On 2012-10-02 23:07, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Just found this possible chrome ball for possible use, if you care to make the adjustments yourself. They are only 3.54" and 2.87".

http://www.larocks.com/magic/ball_magic.htm

That seems a bit heavy, itsays its the same as an acrylic ball. That's three times the weight or more of a standard ball. The Christmas ornament balls (5") is what I used to make my zombies out of and so does Fab magic.
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I posted the reference for the Crow handling, that is what this thread is about, notice the title at the top.

It would also be a good "proof" for the zombie routine at the end. Drop it on the floor. Someone may be interested.
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On 2012-10-03 10:24, Bill Hegbli wrote:
I posted the reference for the Crow handling, that is what this thread is about, notice the title at the top.

It would also be a good "proof" for the zombie routine at the end. Drop it on the floor. Someone may be interested.

OOps, I posted on the wrong zombie thread. There were two others and I didn't read the start comment/
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