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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Tim DeChristopher, who was sentenced today to two years in federal prison for disrupting a Bureau of Land Management auction in 2008, had an opportunity to address the court and the judge today immediately before his sentence was announced. Whether you agree with him or not, this is one of the most eloquent defense speeches I have ever read:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/26-13
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
I couldn't finish it, but it appears he is playing checkers in a game of chess.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Checkers? Chess? No, they were playing Monopoly, and he came in and flipped the gameboard. They weren't really happy about that at all.
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Well... seeing that they are going home and he is going to jail I would have to disagree. I'm not arguing about the merit of his belief, but rather the means in which he chose to defend his position. IMHO I believe he would have gotten off with probation if he allowed his lawyer to do his job.
In the end it is best to keep your mouth shut and let the lawyer do the fighting. Once it is resolved then you can continue with your crusade.
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2011-07-27 15:09, Salguod Nairb wrote: I think he's happy with the outcome as is. |
Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Perhaps... like I said I didn't finish reading it. My comments were directed towards the trial process.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-07-27 15:09, Salguod Nairb wrote: This is perhaps some of the worst advice I have ever heard, well, I guess depending on what you are "crusading" for.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
If you're crusading for staying out of jail, it's not bad.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Once again... my comments are not about his beliefs or anything as simple as right or wrong. It's about how the court system works.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
Actually, you said it was "the means in which he chose to defend his position" which would mean that what he desires to achieve is relevant. You are correct he more likely would have gotten a "lighter" sentence, but that may involve direct compromise of one's initial intentions.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
I could not finish reading the whole statement. Having said that I do not believe he had the stones to tell the court jury sysem is not right and he knows better.
If you feel that this guy is going to change in any way from going to prison for two years you are sadly mistaken. He will be trouble the minute he gets out as he has no respect for the system or someone elses authroity. The old "his way or no way". Two years without him...wonder who will miss him. While I spoke out on what is the purpose of the Norway killer having a trial I was asking what purpose will it serve not questioning the system. This is not to start a thread on that so please don't. It has and is being discussed elsewhere. Just to address gdw it is definitely a very good advise to listen to ones lawyer. That has been proven time and time again. Of course you feel different and if you ever need a lawyer I guess you will decline and defend yourself. After the trial I will have to ask the question: "How did that work out?" As you scratch your head and say "wtf happened?
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
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On 2011-07-27 17:51, gdw wrote: If it isn't legally relevant then you are wasting your time presenting it in court.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
Maybe the topic title should have been, "An Extraordinarily long speech"
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Out of curiosity did anyone finish reading it?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I did. It was long but worth it.
If only MLK and Gandhi had listened to a good lawyer. They could have been out trading derivatives in no time. That Dunninger quote seems apropos I suppose.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
I finished; I thought it was very, very good.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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