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I clicked all the tabs so saw all that was available which was not muchmore than when you do not sign up. There was only one video plus the annoying test pattern video. So I already knew it was a special spray . You also imply this is something you developed. But in fact you are just repackaging Science Friction the floor spray.

I just think your site is misleading and only to collect emails and for marketing and nor really have much information that is helpful in my opinion. More has been said on the threads here than on your site.

The site states :"In an unprecedented move, unlike other creators of magic, we are giving away the secret of our product BEFORE you buy it. No secret left hidden..."

So yes I did expect more information. Read their words... can you blame me. You speak of this nano spray BEFORE anyone signs in. So I am not sur what secret is being revealed. Really all you are doing is allowing access to the DEMO video. People should know this.


But look, I could care less it is a can of spray. That is NOT the secret. I would rather have liked to not see the can and see the effects. You think you are being clever , giving the illusion of turning the table on how magic is sold but really you are just collecting names.

This is why on EVERY site I sign up for something to SEE something or to LEARN something I know better and use a spam tracking email account and never give an actual name or mailing address. This way if I run into a scheme to collect data I can either track via the speical email if my name is being sold (which happens allot even with compnanies who say they do not sell names) or if I get junk emails from the company.


I am just putting the word out what the reality of the site is and suggest others not fall prey to this and just look on the Café for info on this product. Then if you must have the $95 kit then sign up. Trust me folks, they are being fruity, so NO secrets are given, everything is hidden.
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On 2011-10-23 22:33, Powermagic wrote:
I clicked all the tabs so saw all that was available which was not muchmore than when you do not sign up. There was only one video plus the annoying test pattern video. So I already knew it was a special spray . You also imply this is something you developed. But in fact you are just repackaging Science Friction the floor spray.

I just think your site is misleading and only to collect emails and for marketing and nor really have much information that is helpful in my opinion. More has been said on the threads here than on your site.

The site states :"In an unprecedented move, unlike other creators of magic, we are giving away the secret of our product BEFORE you buy it. No secret left hidden..."

So yes I did expect more information. Read their words... can you blame me. You speak of this nano spray BEFORE anyone signs in. So I am not sur what secret is being revealed. Really all you are doing is allowing access to the DEMO video. People should know this.


But look, I could care less it is a can of spray. That is NOT the secret. I would rather have liked to not see the can and see the effects. You think you are being clever , giving the illusion of turning the table on how magic is sold but really you are just collecting names.

This is why on EVERY site I sign up for something to SEE something or to LEARN something I know better and use a spam tracking email account and never give an actual name or mailing address. This way if I run into a scheme to collect data I can either track via the speical email if my name is being sold (which happens allot even with compnanies who say they do not sell names) or if I get junk emails from the company.


I am just putting the word out what the reality of the site is and suggest others not fall prey to this and just look on the Café for info on this product. Then if you must have the $95 kit then sign up. Trust me folks, they are being fruity, so NO secrets are given, everything is hidden.


Why do you keep leaving highly aggressive and accusatory posts about Science Friction?

Do you own it? Have you reviewed it? Have you seen it?

No????

All the gripes and whining you mention above have also been whined before some months ago - ad nauseum. One well known whiner even got kicked off of the Café although I have no idea why exactly...

You've made your points - enough already dude.

If you find the ads or web site not to your taste, so be it as someone else said on another thread (Brehaut) - then don't buy it.

This is an outstanding product - and it is not some repackaged floor spray lol - very funny though Smile

Your posts have not been helpful - far from it. If you want buy it and then have at it.
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Powermagic, I left my email with them, and have yet to receive an email as a result of it.
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Actually I find powermagic's post very helpful I now know not to sign up to the site, no I don't expect to get the formula but as they state no secret left hidden then you would think you would get something for signing up....I will stick with the Café it is great you can find out a lot about products and ask people questions who are usually very helpful.
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The Magic Café is a great source to get informed about products, good or bad. After a while everything was said that would also be stated on our website http://www.sciencefrictionspray.com after you signed in, there is even somewhere the video link of the video that only opens up if you signed in.

The Magic Café, even if we think that EVERY magician informs himself here, is only covering a friction of the whole magician´s community. So if you want to inform yourself here (and have to live with a lot of misinformation like "relabeling an existing product" to get Science Friction) then please stay here and do not sign up. All the others who are not members in the Café find these informations very helpful.

I guess most of you are using an Iphone where you have to wade through 43 pages of terms of agreement and where Apple knows everything of you, or is for sure in Facebook, where you already completely gave up your privacy and where ALL your information is sold to advertisers. I gave you my word to keep these information for us, that this would only be used for (very rare) newsletters. Everybody can decide by himself. We add these information manually to our address book, so a "Mr. fajlafs afsdjkliwo" will never be added anyway.
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On 2011-10-23 22:33, Powermagic wrote:
But in fact you are just repackaging Science Friction the floor spray.


All the people who have allready bought Science Friction KNOW you are telling a blatent lie.
I and many others have bought it and are VERY happy.

P.S.: I never met Cardshark and I don't know him. What I do know is that I was NEVER dissapointed with his products and that his service is 100%.
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Who ever said my posts are agressive I have to disagree, I am only stating the facts and only responding to the responses. This has NOTHING, ZERO ZILCH to do with the product itself. It only has to do the the claims they make about it lasting a lifetime, which by its nature would be impossible and how they are working their pre web site.
Sorry, don't shoot the messenger who points out the truth. Nothing is " Unprecidented" about the site. They are just not showing you the effects they have put together on the video.
I am sorry,
I was wrong about the repackaging I guess, But I would like more information how YOU developed the science behind it if that is true. Are you chemists? Seems so close to the claims of the Science friction floor product that is is an easy assumption.
But again, here is the point, it matters little if you are rebadging or had a company who developed the nano tech put it in spray cans for you.

All I am talking about are your claims, and web methods.
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On 2011-10-23 23:36, Chessmann wrote:
Powermagic, I left my email with them, and have yet to receive an email as a result of it.


That is not the point. The point is I automatically do not give my acutal emails or addresses until I do business with a company. I do nto know this company and since they are in Europe, I have just choose to limit who sees what. And yes I am one of those who will not allow just anyone to read my facebook and I read most agreements.

When someone makes a claim of all secrets revealed it sounded fishy, and turne out NO secrets of any kind revealed , I just automatically posted my findings. What you learn on the site is the ad for the package they are selling.

I surely HOPE they never abuse their policy and hope they never get hacked which then releases your info to the public as well.

I wish them well with their product and as I said this is not about their product but about their claims and web practices.
Take it or leave it. And if feel you wnat to blast me I will keep responding. You want this to go away, let it go and accept the facts of how they are advertising and what actually happens when you sign up. There is no arguement.
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I prefer to go on track record over time, myself. Card-Shark has a good one over time. I am forgetting nothing about this whole episode, believe me. Have you dealt with him at all? On anything?

What on earth makes you think I want anything to go away, or that I'm blasting you? Not on this topic, anyway Smile

You, on the other hand, made a completely uninformed accusation re: the floor spray, then backtracked, but called it an 'easy assumption'.
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Just placed my order... I just have to see this stuff for myself!
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Just placed my order... I just have to see this stuff for myself!


Aaah - the Market Man's dream....

Powermagic - I'm one of the few who found your post useful.

As soon as I see a 'register your interest' prompt - I stop reading and they can go whistle!

Utter marketting and sales BS...usually....
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Just placed my order... I just have to see this stuff for myself!


Aaah - the Market Man's dream....

Powermagic - I'm one of the few who found your post useful.

As soon as I see a 'register your interest' prompt - I stop reading and they can go whistle!

Utter marketting and sales BS...usually....


Roger-

There are loads of comments and reviews now on Science Friction in multiple thread areas.

The comments by Powermagic were a repeat of criticisms made way way back at the beginning of the threads back in July. No one has complained since.

Me, I could give a crap personally about the SF web site.

What I do care about is whether the product performs as advertised and is a good value. Card-shark has never disappointed me with his innovative products (Get Sharky, DD cards, etc) so I have a high level of trust that has built genuinely over time.

If you find Powermagic's snide comments helpful more power to you - I don't.
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It matters not to me when he wrote it - I'm responding as I just read it and I thought he made a good point and I was merely adding my two cents of a similar 'suspiciousness' whenever I see 'register.'

I'm equally happy that others don't agree.

As it turns out, I think Card Shark puts out some good stuff. I've dealt with him three times and suffered poor service on each occasion - that he was quick to correct. But's that's a by-the-by and surely a coincidence.
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There are loads of comments and reviews now on Science Friction in multiple thread areas.


Aha - hadn't seen all that! Interesting reading - blimey!

Can't wait to see it 'in action.'
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On 2011-10-25 11:42, saysold1 wrote:
There are loads of comments and reviews now on Science Friction in multiple thread areas.


Aha - hadn't seen all that! Interesting reading - blimey!

Can't wait to see it 'in action.'


All is good sir... Take care and Blimey blimey blimey! Smile What a great saying lol
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Blimey from the Limey, Brett!
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When will the member section be available on the science friction website?
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On 2011-12-10 18:58, juggle wrote:
When will the member section be available on the science friction website?


+1

We had some indications from Alex Kolle that some added videos were about ready to be posted there, but that they are still "researching for a good platform"... That was back on Dec 10. Doesn’t sound good, which is kinda disappointing. A lot was made of SF having a private Members area. Jeff Kaylor made similar promises for his UCCU device and then he got it going very shortly after saying that.

I'm beginning to wonder if there will ever be a Member area for SF. Seems like it has been forgotten.

Jim
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I'd like to see a members section- we are owed the privilege since we spent so much on it. That was part of the deal. I haven't received an eMail from them since I bought it long ago.
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Guys, I was not online for a long time, had some struggles with several printing jobs, my health etc. but finally I can announce that we were able to open up the member area on our website http://www.sciencefrictionspray.com, where several bonus videos are already waiting for you. Sorry for the delay.

Feel free to discuss all your ideas there, as this is a restricted area, there should be limitations in helping each other out.

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