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To answer the question of daffydoug:

Science Friction (reduced onto the spray and not what comes with it) is a spray that works much stronger and more reliable than a Roughing Fluid. While cards prepared with Roughing Fluid get weak over the time, Science Friction cards will keep the friction much longer. The basic difference though is the following fact and that changes the whole approach of roughing on playing cards:

While cards prepared with Roughing Fluid always need a partner card to work properly, Science Friction does not need a partner card. That means that usually a single card is prepared, and if you bring this card into a borrowed deck you are able to do miracles that are unexplicable. Steal that card out at the end and you are clean.

If you use an ID, you will never want to use another one than an ID made with Science Friction. The handling is so much more reliable and flawless.
The preparation for it is different, so with the same amount of spray needed to prepare a normal ID, you can make four IDs with Science Friction.
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I have to agree with Card shark.

I made up an ID with Science Friction and it works beautifully. No more struggling to separate the card.

I've also used SF to make up Richard Sanders 4 Card Crunch. A Dr Daley Last Card Trick, type of effect.

Additionally, I've also used it to make up 'Hands Off Silent but Deadly', a wonderful effect from Ben Harris' Run_Silent_Run Deep Manuscript. which is the sequel to Silent Running by Ben Harris

All the best

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I know this is probably a dumb question, but if Science Friction works without a partner card, then how do you and/or a spectator easily separate it from an adjacent card when that needs to happen?
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On 2013-03-01 19:04, CaMagic51 wrote:
I know this is probably a dumb question, but if Science Friction works without a partner card, then how do you and/or a spectator easily separate it from an adjacent card when that needs to happen?


VERY VERY easy. That's one of the things that is explained on the DVD.
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Only a small amount of spray is used - a dab will do ya (as Jack Nicholson would say).

It isn't a dumb question, but think about it.

Only a small portion of card gets treated.
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On 2013-02-26 02:14, Magicmagician83 wrote:
Ihop, you mean the civil people skills that you just showed? I'll pass.


Guys,
Let's just completely ignore this troll from now on and maybe (but unlikely) he will go away.
Some people just don't know when they are disliked and not wanted...
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Hi,

I always have problems with my ID and cards flashing when I don't want them to. I think I might try it just for that. Does anyone know how many cards worth of spray you get for the $95?
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You can spray 600 cards if you coat them with three thin layers, 900 cards with two thin layers.

In the Science Friction Forum you will learn how to prepare the ID with SF, and the amount used will only be counted for 13 cards. So I bet I would easily get 45 to 50 IDs out of one can. (cards provided, they are not IN the can... Smile )
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Thanks for all the info on Science Friction. I will definately give it a try!
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On 2013-03-06 22:11, b0sl0q7 wrote:
Thanks for all the info on Science Friction. I will definitely give it a try!


I will as well! I will buy Delicious Ambitious first, then (I am almost sure I will) if I like it, I will buy Science Friction. Thanks for all the information on this fluid!

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If you do serious card work then Science Friction is a must have. I've been doing card magic for over 50 years. With Science Friction I have taken many of my favorite effects and added that last 5 percent of improvement that turns them into real miracles -- at least that's what my audiences and brother magicians tell me. Thanks for developing this truly wonderful product.
Magically yours,
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Just made up an ID deck with SF and I can't believe how well it works.
Thank you very much Cardshark.
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SF is a h*ll of a great product - it is one of those rare items and there is nothing else like it.
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Magicmagician83 obviously, no one on this forum cares what you think, on any subject. Get Lost!

The Cardshark rules....

Both products and service beyond compare.
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Kind words please - "Magicians helping magicians" and Please apply Thumper's rule at all times.
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I'm fairly new here but I really don't understand some of the posts. If someone doesn't like a particular product, that's fine. However, I don't feel that it's appropriate for them to put down others who do like that product. I would also hope that before people put down a product, that they spend some time with the actual product to give an informed opinion. As far as the cost, maybe some people could feel better if it cost $100 to buy a DVD with routines and the company threw in a free can of spray. There are certainly products out there that could be made less expensively but even assuming that SF is nothing more than basic roughing spray (I realize it's more than that), then the company is doing the magic fraternity a service by releasing an existing product with some new ideas. Plenty of effect that have been sold are also available for free in books. That doesn't mean that the person buying the effect wasted their money. Perhaps, they knew about it from the book but didn't want to go to the trouble of making it up themselves.

One more rant...this is supposed to be a fraternity of magicians...let's all try to be civil to each other.

Just my 3 cents worth,

Dave
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On 2013-04-23 18:17, psychod wrote:
I'm fairly new here but I really don't understand some of the posts. If someone doesn't like a particular product, that's fine. However, I don't feel that it's appropriate for them to put down others who do like that product. I would also hope that before people put down a product, that they spend some time with the actual product to give an informed opinion. As far as the cost, maybe some people could feel better if it cost $100 to buy a DVD with routines and the company threw in a free can of spray. There are certainly products out there that could be made less expensively but even assuming that SF is nothing more than basic roughing spray (I realize it's more than that), then the company is doing the magic fraternity a service by releasing an existing product with some new ideas. Plenty of effect that have been sold are also available for free in books. That doesn't mean that the person buying the effect wasted their money. Perhaps, they knew about it from the book but didn't want to go to the trouble of making it up themselves.

One more rant...this is supposed to be a fraternity of magicians...let's all try to be civil to each other.

Just my 3 cents worth,

Dave


Dave-

Some very good words and advice here.

Just to make it crystal clear however, that SF is far from roughing spray being re-release. I know you aren't saying that it is - but that's probably not the best analogy to use.

This is in fact a breakthrough productt - it is something quite new - and it will allow many things your Grandpa's roughing spray wishes it could do but can't in a million years.

Roughing spray requires 2 cards - and much of each of those cards needs to be sprayed.

SF needs only the smallest dusting on a very small portion of one single card - and dries in less than 3 min.

SF is as close to "bottled magic" as I have ever encountered.

TRouble with your DL? Need a little hep with a perfect Elmsley Count? Triple lifts? Need a control card?

All and more possible with SF - making non card guys like me look like a pro.
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Why argue with these people?

I just keep quietly using my SF and enjoying every effect greatly! I often have to keep from laughing out loud while using it. It is so easy yet so darned amazing!

Jim
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For what it's worth, I plan on picking up Science Friction. I saw it at Magic Live in 2011 and it looked pretty cool but I had already spent my allotted budget on magic (okay, I actually spent more). I do realize it's much more than roughing spray but I don't personally own it yet so I didn't want to comment on that. I guess I was commenting more on one person in particular making derogatory comments about others and then others continuing on with some comments that weren't all that nice either.

Just my 3 cents worth,

Dave
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Magicmagician83 is just another obvious troll, speaking ill of others for their opinions, then feigning shock and dismay when people speak ill of him. This is nothing new, there are thousands of these sad individuals all over the 'net. Sadly, this is the only way the common troll can obtain the attention he so craves. Generally, trolls have nothing of real value in their lives, be it family, friends, interests, and especially love. Therefore, the only thing they know to do is insult others, in a sad attempt to make themselves feel better. The best thing to do is either just say "okay" to whatever verbal diarrhea oozes from their mouths, or ignore them entirely. They HATE that.
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