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On 2011-11-03 14:55, MagicallyMe wrote:
BTW - If anyone hasn't seen Bill Malone's performance of this, it's very humorous and worth watching!


Where can I find this? Smile
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Ha I was just watching Malones Skinner version, it's here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qju5s9IEKow
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On 2011-11-03 14:55, MagicallyMe wrote:
BTW - If anyone hasn't seen Bill Malone's performance of this, it's very humorous and worth watching!


Where can I find this? Smile



In Bill Malone dvd On the Loose vol.1. The cards are easily avaliable at most magic dealers.
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Agreed, I started doing the Skinner version after I saw Bill Malone do it (probably true of a lot of tricks). On the one hand you are only going to do 1"monte" trick in a set, on the other hand I think Stand up Monte is different enough that if you are seeing repeats (professional or amateur) you could do both of these tricks on separate occasions and both would be appreciated. It can be done in the hands and is really as much of quick "wild card" which I always thought too long in its 8 card version as it is a monte. You're a showing people 3 of a kind when you supposedly only started with 1. Obviously no trick is for everyone but this trick suits my style and has been successful for me.
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Exactly right.This is really a quick wild card in which Garrett has weaved a monte story around.
Garrett mentions the excellent story Tommy Wonder wrote for his wild card.
Give the cards changing a completely different reason then the one Garrett uses if you like!
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Briliant routine. I try this yesterday and got amazing reactions. It's in my A list now.


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I just got this yesterday, along with Ontology Project and iContact...I vote Stand Up Monte, and perhaps those other two, my best purchases of 2011, bar none.
I like this monte better than Skinners (I know, heresy!!!!!) In fact, I'm having trouble putting into words just how much I like this monte, it rocks!!! And , yes, I know it's really kind of a combo wild card and monte...
The dvd is definitely the extra cost, and worth it, in my opinion. I really do like Thomas' teaching style, it's a very good DVD.
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I have this, I've road tested it, for me it's not a patch on colour monte from a practical performers point of view. I don't understand the hype.
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This has been released before in the early 1990's by Keith Bennett of the U.K. He called it 'KickBack Monte'.

Does the DVD credit Keith?
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Regarding the optional final phase where the 3 queens change places with the 3 fours

On the dvd, Garrett uses 2 h@lf p@ss@s

I find a simple push thru fist move (what is that called?) works fine and is a lot easier.

BTW used this in a walk around gig today and it killed
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On 2011-12-30 13:45, Zombie Magic wrote:
This has been released before in the early 1990's by Keith Bennett of the U.K. He called it 'KickBack Monte'.

Does the DVD credit Keith?


A review of Keith's original routine can be found in the October 1992 issue of Magic Menu.

OMG, it's virtually identical!!!

Keith must be fuming right now that the trick of 2011 hasn't credited him in any way.
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...interestingly the reviewer in the Magic Menu did NOT recommend the trick for walk-around performance for various reasons and then went on to launch a personal attack on Keith and told him his interpersonal skills needed some improvement! Unsurprisingly the trick did not then become a major success for Keith (as it has for GT).

Maybe, therefore, the thing that makes for a successfully marketed trick is the name behind it and some colleagues or peers who are willing to endorse it.

Food for thought.
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Interesting bit of news about the existence of Mr. Bennett's monte routine. You say it is virtually identical. I wonder what part is different? I'm also a bit surprised at this revelation. If true, it means someone did not do their homework. I will be curious to see how this plays out.

I have heard magicians say that it shouldn't matter if you like the trick, only if your audience likes it (see sponge balls). I going to put this to the test as I'm not a fan of this routine but I asked for and received it for Christmas. I'm going to work it up, test it out and see if my audiences like it. If they like it, that should be all that matters.
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Kaliix,

I understand what you're saying about the discrepant move, but I really believe you are thinking like a magician. I am not concerned about discrepancies unless they are noticed by my spectators. In fact, one of my favorite packet tricks is Jim Swain's "Capitulating Queens," which also involves a repeated discrepancy that always flies by the spectators.

We as magicians pick up on far more discrepancies than laypeople because we know how things are supposed to look (such as card counts) and we are aware of gaffs they are not. What may be glaringly apparent to you will often be completely invisible to your spectators. This is especially true if the effect is well-routined to direct attention away from the discrepancies (something to which magicians are generally immune). This effect is so routined and in my experience, no one has ever picked up on the discrepancies. Put the work into perfecting Stand Up Monte and I will bet no one ever mentions a discrepancy.

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I strongly recommend this trick, awesome
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It's very strong, audience love it, who cares what magicians think!?
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This certainly seems interesting, but it has a steep price for a monte effect. It looks great, though. I was wondering how this compares with a color monte effect. I currently do a color monte with 3 playing cards that has served well for many many years. I am skeptical to throw $30 at another monte effect.
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Seriously, I agree $30 seems to much, but in fact it is well worth it. I do not think you will be disappointed.
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You're buying a well thought out and road-tested routine. Color Monte is a great trick, but this one has a different feel and, more importantly for me, has a lot of spectator involvement. Unlike Color Monte, the magic happens in their hands. That's why I think it is superior in most walk around situations. I rank this in my top 10 walk around tricks of all time, and it is one I will do the rest of my life. So $30 is a bargain for me. But only you know your needs. If you feel your current repertoire fits you perfectly or that this effect wouldn't be right for you, then you should pass on it.
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LumberJohn, Thank you for that. I had not quite considered how HUGE it was that it happens in the specs hand. I suppose I trap myself by thinking like a magician, dang it. I think I am going to give it a whirl this month. I am thinking that it will be very useful to have in a close up set.
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