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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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Is capitalism a form of governance? Some people believe so http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Po......ism.html I'm not sure I completely agree with them. But capitalism plays an important role in many political systems. From Facism to Social Capitalism
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 12:48, Payne wrote: No doubt. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 11:48, Tom Jorgenson wrote: People die from pasteurized dairy products as well.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Not from the products having been pasteurized... Unless you consider the acceptance of less flavorful a living death.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 13:25, Tom Cutts wrote: Didn't say it was from the pasteurization. The same way it's not the raw milk that kills people, but what it can get tainted with.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Shut up brain, we're staying out of this!
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
These non-debates are disappointing. Surely you all have more nuanced thoughts on these issues.
For those who believe in regulation (as I do) there are important questions of the extent to which regulation is desirable. Many of gdw's examples do not imply (to me) that all regulation is bad, but they do suggest that often we (as a society) get it wrong. And that is always worthy of intelligent discussion. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 13:44, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: I agree. John, I actually do NOT think all regulation is bad. I actually support the idea of standards and regulations. What I don't support is enforcing them at the point of a gun, and with locking people in cages, and having a monopoly, which is hugely open to lobbying and corruption, running such regulations, and being used by larger corporations to regulate out competition from smaller businesses. Like so: http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/49834/group/homepage/
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Quote: The problem with your line of thought is the raw milk became tainted because it was not pasteurized and/or it was handled improperly... Which makes the argument for either monitoring handling or requiring a process, pasteurization, which great reduces the chance of food poisoning. The folks who you are championing here simply refuse to monitoring of their handling. Rather than take legal challenge in the courts, they choose to trudge headlong against the law, time after time. You'll never guess what the outcome is.
On 2011-08-05 13:31, gdw wrote: I find it interesting you support killing in the name of profit, but not monopolizing in the name of profit. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 13:45, gdw wrote: How do you support enforcing them?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 14:08, Tom Cutts wrote: Where is anything said about refusing any monitoring or proper handling of the milk? "milk became tainted because it was . . . handled improperly" Yes, the exact same way that pasteurized milk can, and does, ALSO become tainted.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
And enough with the "support killing."
I support letting people be able to choose for themselves.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Including letting companies kill their customers and or employees in the name of profits. The free choice will fix it all!
So, an entire hour and you haven't posted a link to a story about pasteurized products killing people. You're losing your touch. |
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
As I get older, I agree with Tom a bit more.... (on some ideas)
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 14:15, gdw wrote: And when I contract tuberculosis from someone who got it from drinking raw milk how is that choosing for myself?
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 14:44, Payne wrote: There is something fallacious in this, but I can't quite put it into words. Perhaps someone else can.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 14:55, gdw wrote: Payne could have chosen not to kiss anyone. He knew the job was dangerous when he took it. ;) |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Quote: You have caught on to his evil mastermind plan of solving the myth of over population by killing off those who willingly or even unknowingly engage in dangerous activities like buying milk and spinach, choking each other during sex, or now even kissing it appears.
On 2011-08-05 14:44, Payne wrote: Racist, sexist, and now kissist. Quickly, to the shuttle pods. Utopia is imploding! |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
"unknowingly engage in dangerous activities like buying milk and spinach,"
So dangerous apparently you need men with guns to come in and keep you safe, from FOOD, RUN AWAY!!!!!
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
When six people die you'll be complaining about that too. (Even though you claim to support killing for profit.)
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