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On 2011-08-09 09:37, motown wrote:
A documentary can present a slanted view just like anything else. All you have to do is look at some of Michael Moore's work.



!00% true, but all you have to do is take one look at the pictures of the burns...
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!



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On 2011-08-09 11:27, S2000magician wrote:
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On 2011-08-09 11:23, critter wrote:
Yeah my neighborhood grocery has yellow signs in the parking lot warning about slippery ice.

In August?

(Can't be too careful . . . .)


Yeah, they're permanent. We do have fairly long winters though...
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On 2011-08-09 09:52, MAKMagic wrote:
Hrmm, I too am unfamiliar with the details. However - if you order Hot Coffee and the lid and the cup are intact and not faulty then I REALLY don't see how McD's should have been held responsible.

If I feel so inclined I'll look it up.


The coffee was so hot the the styrofoam cup it was served in became unstable. It basically collapesed as she tried to put cream and sugar in it. Furthermore Mcdonalds was well aware of the situation. During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard.
thus they new about the dangers involved with their product but did nothing to correct them.
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Aye - in that case - there really is no question of McD's guilt.
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On 2011-08-09 05:34, ed rhodes wrote:
I never thought it was frivilous. And I never understood how anyone would think suing over something that caused third-degree burns could have been frivilous.



That to me is the crucial question that bears investigating. Precisely what mechanisms were in place that allowed people to think the opposite of the truth in question? And are they still in place? That's the place where angels fear to go--they'll pay a heavy price for trying to find out.
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On 2011-08-09 05:34, ed rhodes wrote:
I never thought it was frivilous. And I never understood how anyone would think suing over something that caused third-degree burns could have been frivilous.


On this point, the damage is irrelevant and the suit IS frivolous regardless of how substantial the damages (3rd burns, maiming etc..) if the party being sued isn't responsible for it.

As noted above, in this particular issue, if the cup/lid were faulty and/or unable to contain the coffee properly and it resulted in injury (which DOES appear to be the case) then they are and should be liable.
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It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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On 2011-08-09 12:48, MAKMagic wrote:
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On 2011-08-09 05:34, ed rhodes wrote:
I never thought it was frivilous. And I never understood how anyone would think suing over something that caused third-degree burns could have been frivilous.


On this point, the damage is irrelevant and the suit IS frivolous regardless of how substantial the damages (3rd burns, maiming etc..) if the party being sued isn't responsible for it.

As noted above, in this particular issue, if the cup/lid were faulty and/or unable to contain the coffee properly and it resulted in injury (which DOES appear to be the case) then they are and should be liable.


Or serving up a drink capable of giving 3rd degree burns, perhaps? Most consumers would never dream they would be served a drink that could blacken their tissue.
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It should also be noted that McDonald's own research showed that their drive-up customers generally intended to drink the coffee in the car, and NOT when they got to their final destination (as McDonald's claimed in court). But, despite that, it was shown that the coffee, upon delivery, was hot enough to cause burns to the tongue and throat. (Let alone to the groin, where this poor woman was injured when the problem of the overly hot coffee was exacerbated by the damage it caused to the styrofoam cup.)
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Jamie Leigh Jones, the woman in the mandatory arbitration section, lost er case this past June/July.
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I'm still quite curious as to why McD kept the coffee so hot. What motivated them to do so?
Here it is suggested that it was to prevent customers from drinking it right away in the restaurant so as to lessen the number of refills they had to give out.

http://www.legal-news-california.tozerla......ase.html

My question would then be, why not just NOT do the refills?

I'm not certain if this is a real reason or not, I'm still quite curious about it.
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Two wild guesses, I have no idea if either is the case:

1) Some kind of consumer research showed that customers want to see steam rising from the coffee cup to prove that it was hot and "fresh."
or,
2) There is something in their coffee making process that required that temp in order to get the maximum usage from their ground coffee.
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Maybe they just like to burn people. I remember those nuclear apple pies back in the day...
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Things have obviously changed with McCafe's and free WiFi but I think McDonalds, in past years, did not want to keep people instore.
In the late 80's when I was poverty stricken, I betrayed all my ethics to teach kids to be clowns and entertain tykes at birthday parties for Maccas main Australian competitor. I was told McDonalds wanted to get their customers in and out quick, so they used bright garish colours to lure them in, but these colours also worked to drive them out, as did the small, narrow uncomfortable furniture they installed. The mob I worked for used warmer earthier tones, plastic plants, and more comfortable furniture to hold their customers longer.
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