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On 2011-08-14 09:32, tommy wrote:
Yes things can change. Just look at history and see how Hitler changed Germany and so on.


LOL Thanks Rush Limbaugh
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On 2011-08-14 09:36, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
Things could be worse where you are.

Look at Somalia.

Seriously.


Well of course things could be worse. That doesn't take away from the problems my country has. There are plenty of other places that would be nice to help. I think it becomes much easier to do that when you don't have problems at home though.
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Tommy, I didn't mean that to be so rude, I just find it funny that the only leaders we reference as game changers are the ones who commit genocide.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with what America stands for. I would not let anyone change it and I think Americans have a duty to keep it that way.
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On 2011-08-13 23:02, Dannydoyle wrote:
Change that is meaningful takes place local levels.

:applause:
All politics are local.
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On 2011-08-13 23:02, Dannydoyle wrote:
Change that is meaningful takes place local levels.

:applause:
All politics are local and people vote their wallets.
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On 2011-08-14 09:32, tommy wrote:
Yes things can change. Just look at history and see how Hitler changed Germany and so on.


Hitler point!
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On 2011-08-14 00:27, NicholasD wrote:
... and to repeal a healthcare bill we didn't need or want ...


Who's 'we,' paleface? Smile
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On 2011-08-14 01:09, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Business expansion involves a risk/reward calculation; generally, money goes out of pocket up front in the hopes/expectation that it will ultimately result in more income. A lower tax rate increases the possible upside of that calculation, and weighs in favor of expanding; conversely, a higher tax rate lowers the possible upside even in a best case scenario, and thus weighs against expanding.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Lobo, than are dreamt of in your business expansion.


Apparently there are more things considered in a business expansion than are dreamt of by theoreticians.
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Going back to the OP...

We seem to keep forgetting that "the media" is a profit-making industry. Like any other business, they will produce and sell what they believe the public will buy. Sensationalism and exploitation have always sold; therefore, in the absence of any other major stories, they are now pushing on the elections.

In a way, the media does the same thing as those companies that produce infomercials to push the latest gadget or fad: they are creating interest in their product by putting it in your face over and over and getting people to talk about it. The "mercial" part of the infomercial is what's intended to make you come back for more. Next thing you know, the tabloids will jump on the bandwagon and start writing about the skeletons in the closet of every major contender.

Must be nice to be in a business where you can create interest in your product by making people think it's not a product. Geez, I'd love to come up with something like that. Smile
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We do--it's called MAGIC.
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Actually, after I hit the Submit button, it hit me... law! Smile
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I think also that meaningful change must be slow and incrimental. Not harsh and lurching. This scares people and they react prior to being able to know if it is right or wrong.

Meaningful change is also quite complex and can not be boiled down to simple sound bites. This is not convienent at all mind you but it is true.
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On 2011-08-15 04:52, Dannydoyle wrote:
I think also that meaningful change must be slow and incrimental. Not harsh and lurching. This scares people and they react prior to being able to know if it is right or wrong.

Meaningful change is also quite complex and can not be boiled down to simple sound bites. This is not convienent at all mind you but it is true.


LOL I agree. People are like horses, they're scared off easily. Although I must say it sucks not being able to make a statement without sounding like the typical soundbite.
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Yea many positions have been boiled down to them. The problem then is when someone disagrees with you and says "Thanks Rush".
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On 2011-08-15 05:30, Dannydoyle wrote:
Yea many positions have been boiled down to them. The problem then is when someone disagrees with you and says "Thanks Rush".


I didn't mean to insult poor old Rush or anyone else who references Hitler like he's a good comparison to a typical politician who doesn't commit genocide.
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Not my point, but it gets thrown about as a distraction when someone can not counter a point. Much like Rush uses Hitler.
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It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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Just how many threads are you going to post this link on?
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On 2011-08-15 05:43, Dannydoyle wrote:
Not my point, but it gets thrown about as a distraction when someone can not counter a point. Much like Rush uses Hitler.


Does Rush get another Hitler point? I'm confused.
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